heydaralon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:32 amLet me just say, I hope France collapses and leaves the EU, but that won't happen sadly. But more to the point, I have a lot of trouble supporting these types of movements in foreign countries, because even though we are reading stuff online, these mass protests are never monolithic. There are never a single group with an identical idea. In the Arab Spring, there were leftists, even communists, that allied with the koran thumpers. The same thing happened in the Iranian revolution. They had a common goal before the revolution (to get rid of the leader), but after the fact, it led to one group winning power and then destroying the other group. Morsi won for awhile after the Arab spring until the coup, and the leftists got driven out, which also happened in Iran. Be very careful supporting foreign activists, because they are not who you think they are.
Also, many times these foreigners will attempt to gain sympathy from other countries and Americans. In Tahrir Square, the protestors held up signs saying: "We Love America! We are your friends!" It turns out many of them couldn't even speak English and they were just manipulating us. Remember Libya? This makes me very leery of any mass movement I see on tv, especially a Middle Eastern one which is filled to the brim with rapists, and terrorists who would slit your throat if you ever visited their sewer country.
Is Macron a lowlife and a coward? Yes. Should France leave the EU and hopefully crash its economy? Yes. Do I hope this unrest spreads to other Euro countries and causes an economic collapse their. More than anything. But I'm not going to hold my breath. I'm glad the French govt is having a hard time, but they will take the wrong message from this if anything.
There are far left and far right elements both in the movement.