Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:45 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:09 am
You get a race war because you imported tens of millions of nonwhites, and when the government is interrupted, that's what happens. Everywhere. No exceptions. Sectarian violence is always a sword of Damocles hanging over every multi-ethnic state. I mean.. get real. Read some books or something. LOL
You know where the worst sectarian violence would occur if there was a breakdown of government in the UK?
It would be in Northern Ireland between one Christian sect of white men and another slightly different Christian sect of white men.

The vast majority of non-white British subjects would turn up at their jobs including the police, healthcare and military and try to help their fellow Brits.
Your fantasy of race war breaking out is just that, a fantasy.
Sure, a small bunch of far-right troublemakers would try to kick off a race war but under martial law, the police or army would turn up and shoot them on the spot.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:46 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:45 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:09 am
You get a race war because you imported tens of millions of nonwhites, and when the government is interrupted, that's what happens. Everywhere. No exceptions. Sectarian violence is always a sword of Damocles hanging over every multi-ethnic state. I mean.. get real. Read some books or something. LOL
You know where the worst sectarian violence would occur if there was a breakdown of government in the UK?
It would be in Northern Ireland between one Christian sect of white men and another slightly different Christian sect of white men.

The vast majority of non-white British subjects would turn up at their jobs including the police, healthcare and military and try to help their fellow Brits.
Your fantasy of race war breaking out is just that, a fantasy.
Sure, a small bunch of far-right troublemakers would try to kick off a race war but under martial law, the police or army would turn up and shoot them on the spot.
It will happen in London, but whatever. Your hatred for Christians is the core of why you want to murder your own people with demographic invasion.

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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:51 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:46 am
It will happen in London, but whatever. Your hatred for Christians is the core of why you want to murder your own people with demographic invasion.
Hysterical, but not in a humorous way.

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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by C-Mag » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:17 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
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I'm not that naive but do you really think 90% of the rural white families would be dead by the time the Military had more or less basic control? I don't really think so. I do know human nature and what stress can and does do it. Again im not naive. I know if people don't have food for a few days all hell can and will likely breakout. I also know that semi rural to very rural populations would not go completely bat shit just b/c there was no internet or electricity. It primarily will come down to how much elapsed time passes from the initial attack to the delivery of water to those people. I've seen my community go without electrical power for 12-14 days. It wasn't pretty but it wasn't fullblown panic either. As long as some basic security was provided by 3-4 weeks I think it wouldn't be that insane. There would be total chaos in cities and exurban areas. Thats a case against living that closely with so many people you don't know. A lot of states in the U.S. have tons of Army and Guard bases all around them. Those guys have families too.
Rural families would have about 10X better chance at survival than urban areas, but there still would be plenty of problems.

Population density would suddenly become a problem with resource production and distribution screeching to a halt. Persons per Square Mile: UK 712, Italy 522, Denmark 315, US 92, Mexico 67, Russia 22.

It's not just areas classified as Urban, Suburban and Exurban, it's having large population densities with traveling distance of you.
US Population Density by County
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When you look at that. Pretty much everything east of the Mississippi and the West coast to the Coastal range is toast.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by C-Mag » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:38 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:09 am

Realistically *(if it can even be fairly reasonable quantified) how large of a geographic area could go down based on one or however many "attacks"? Also, whats to prevent the U.S. from doing it to China or whoever else would try to do it to us?
It can be quantified and has.
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Depending on how you made the attack, say like Forstchen theorized attacks off container ships. You may go for a fairly low altitude attack, thereby not getting as much coverage. If you were going to do one attack at about 60 miles high, you would likely want to center it over Cinncinati. You could get everything on the east coast from the Carolinas to Main, you'd get Chicago and St Louis, plus the major Canadian cities. Just that would pretty much wipe out half the US, and two-thirds of it's population.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by GloryofGreece » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:52 am

C-Mag wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:38 am
GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:09 am

Realistically *(if it can even be fairly reasonable quantified) how large of a geographic area could go down based on one or however many "attacks"? Also, whats to prevent the U.S. from doing it to China or whoever else would try to do it to us?
It can be quantified and has.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -grid.html

Depending on how you made the attack, say like Forstchen theorized attacks off container ships. You may go for a fairly low altitude attack, thereby not getting as much coverage. If you were going to do one attack at about 60 miles high, you would likely want to center it over Cinncinati. You could get everything on the east coast from the Carolinas to Main, you'd get Chicago and St Louis, plus the major Canadian cities. Just that would pretty much wipe out half the US, and two-thirds of it's population.
So why haven't the Chinese or Russian done this already?
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:14 am

Because it does not prevent us from launching against them.

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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:36 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:52 am
C-Mag wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:38 am
GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:09 am

Realistically *(if it can even be fairly reasonable quantified) how large of a geographic area could go down based on one or however many "attacks"? Also, whats to prevent the U.S. from doing it to China or whoever else would try to do it to us?
It can be quantified and has.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -grid.html

Depending on how you made the attack, say like Forstchen theorized attacks off container ships. You may go for a fairly low altitude attack, thereby not getting as much coverage. If you were going to do one attack at about 60 miles high, you would likely want to center it over Cinncinati. You could get everything on the east coast from the Carolinas to Main, you'd get Chicago and St Louis, plus the major Canadian cities. Just that would pretty much wipe out half the US, and two-thirds of it's population.
So why haven't the Chinese or Russian done this already?
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by C-Mag » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:06 pm

GloryofGreece wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:52 am

So why haven't the Chinese or Russian done this already?
IMO, the US is the engine of the Global Economy, if they killed it, they would be fighting everyone. Someone who is going to do it is a radical group, who has nothing to lose and would prefer if the Engine of the Global Economy was destroyed and the Global Economy too. So that takes us down to a few rogue states, and Wahhabists as far as I can tell.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by GloryofGreece » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:22 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:06 pm
GloryofGreece wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:52 am

So why haven't the Chinese or Russian done this already?
IMO, the US is the engine of the Global Economy, if they killed it, they would be fighting everyone. Someone who is going to do it is a radical group, who has nothing to lose and would prefer if the Engine of the Global Economy was destroyed and the Global Economy too. So that takes us down to a few rogue states, and Wahhabists as far as I can tell.
Roughly speaking, would it me more and how much more or less complex and difficult would it be to deliver that type of attack so as opposed to a brief case type nuclear attack?
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