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Re: Socialism

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:29 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:06 pm
So - It’s increasingly clear that Americans want more collectivism - does that mean we’re doomed to be Venezuela? What happens when DNC controls all branches and all states? Do things just grind to a halt? Or will people finally reject marxism ?
We’re going Venezuela without even the sweet social bennies.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Socialism

Post by Fife » Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:01 am

Funny money has always been the hallmark of bonehead socialism.

How Roman Central Planners Destroyed Their Economy
When taxation no longer generated enough revenue to finance all of these activities, Emperor Diocletian resorted to debasement of the currency. Gold and silver coinage would have their metal content reduced and reissued by the government with the claim that their metallic value was the same as before. The government passed legal tender laws requiring Roman citizens and subjects throughout the Empire to accept these debased coins at the higher value stamped on each of the coin’s faces.

The result of this was inevitable, too. Since in terms of the actual gold and silver contained in them, these legal tender coins had a lower value, traders would only accept them at a discount. That is, they were soon devalued in the market place. People began to hoard all the gold and silver coins that still contained the higher gold and silver content and using the debased coins in market trading.

This, of course, meant that each of the debased coins would only buy a smaller quantity of goods on the market than before; or expressed the other way around, more of these debased coins now had to be given in exchange for the same amount of commodities as before. The price inflation became worse and worse as the Emperor issued more and more of these increasingly worthless forms of money.

The penalty imposed for violation of these price and wage controls was death.

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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:17 am

The Roman government also set price controls on wheat. In the fourth century, B.C., the Roman government would buy grain during periods of shortages and sell it at a price fixed far below the market price. In 58 B.C., this was improved upon; the government gave grain away to the citizens of Rome at a zero price, that is, for free.

The result was inevitable: farmers left the land and flocked to Rome; this, of course, only made the problem worse, since with fewer farmers on the land in the territories surrounding Rome, less grain than before was being grown and brought to the market. Also, masters were freeing their slaves and placing the financial burden for feeding them on the Roman government at that zero price.
I am fairly certain this is inaccurate at best. Rome required massive imports from grain belts like Sicily and Egypt to function. They lacked the technology to produce enough food on the arable land in Italy to support Rome and all the other towns at the same time.

Also, the dole only gave people a small amount of grain. It was not meant to provide the entire diet of a person, but to supplement their food so that their food costs were not so high.

As far the farmers.. they all got bought out by patricians who formed massive plantation estates with their slave labor.

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Re: Socialism

Post by heydaralon » Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:19 am

Grain Controls delenda est
Shikata ga nai

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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:04 am

MEXICO—A migrant caravan full of leftists desiring to enter the socialist paradise of Venezuela departed the United States Thursday and began marching toward through Mexico, stating they will demand asylum so they might experience the far better life that socialism offers.

The migrants claim they are leaving America because of its high standards of living, strong economy, and record employment numbers, and hope to find a better life in Venezuela's much more equitable system.

"Everyone there has the same quantity of possessions and food," said one marcher. "Everyone makes millions of dollars, and very few people work. It's a real paradise." The refugees have complex motivations, but the vast majority simply want to see everything socialism has to offer after suffering the amazing benefits of capitalism for too long.

Caravan organizers dispelled rumors that they were funded by Bernie Sanders, claiming the caravan was an organic grassroots movement.

At its current pace, the caravan is expected to arrive just in time for Venezuela to run out of food entirely.
https://babylonbee.com/news/caravan-of- ... pmjh7Jb7-s


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Re: Socialism

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:34 pm

Whether or not you believe in Global warming, the stupid still burns....

New York City’s incoming socialist congresswoman, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, says there will only be benefits, and no costs, to passing a raft of new climate change laws. In particular, she said, a new system of global warming governance will usher in “economic, social, and racial justice.”
https://news.grabien.com/story-ocasio-c ... -will-crea


FUCK SHE SAYS DUMB SHIT.





Ocasio-Cortez also suggested the federal government should nationalize Tesla’s technology, following the company’s receipt of tax subsidies.
Here it comes - hope ya'll are ready for it.

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Re: Socialism

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:39 pm

In a few more election cycles, we will be nationalizing industry....

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Re: Socialism

Post by brewster » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:42 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:34 pm
FUCK SHE SAYS DUMB SHIT.
Agreed, but so does the president. How about this: we don't elect ignorant idiots to office. I know it rubs certain anti-intellectual factions the wrong way, but it really helps when our leaders know what they're talking about.
We are only accustomed to dealing with like twenty online personas at a time so when we only have about ten people some people have to be strawmanned in order to advance our same relative go nowhere nonsense positions. -TheReal_ND

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Re: Socialism

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:46 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:42 pm
Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:34 pm
FUCK SHE SAYS DUMB SHIT.
Agreed, but so does the president. How about this: we don't elect ignorant idiots to office.
Restrict the vote with a voting tax - that's the answer.

Voting tax totally constitutional - Constitution originally limited voting to land owners - the progressive changed this by duping the people in to believing that society was changing to the point where most people didn't own land anymore because we were transitioning away from an agrarian society.

Voting tax would reinstate the guard against proles voting.

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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:53 pm

Just limit it to people who are net tax payers *and* veterans. Seriously. That's the original intent in a nutshell right there.