I always thought it weird that the vegans folks weren't way more into artificial.
Vegan is the opposite of organic, if you will.
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Where's an Environmentalist when you need one
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Vegans are anti human utopians.

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Hmm, could you explainnmoore63 wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:00 pm I always thought it weird that the vegans folks weren't way more into artificial.
Vegan is the opposite of organic, if you will.
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You say this because sadly you think well-being is a zero sum game.
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Well our species eats meat.JohnDonne wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:09 pmHmm, could you explainnmoore63 wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:00 pm I always thought it weird that the vegans folks weren't way more into artificial.
Vegan is the opposite of organic, if you will.
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To reject that is to reject our natural order. To rise above it in theory.
What's more beyond our nature than artificial products?
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Shhh. You have no idea what I think. Guess again.

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Why guess when I can read the nonsense you write?
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You appear to need these obvious things pointed out to you.JohnDonne wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:55 pm For example:
In a literal sense the sentence “killing animals for food is a part of life” is a true statement. Yes, within the world animals are routinely slaughtered. However, this is so obvious as to be banal.
Now you're spouting bullshit. I'd explain what bullshit is to you, but that would be so banal.JohnDonne wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:55 pm In another, deeper sense,the statement could mean that nature does not comment on ethics, it merely exists, humans and animals are a part of nature, therefore humans killing animals is ethically fine. That would be mind-blowing, but wait, it’s obviously untrue. Humans make ethical judgments and decisions all the time, and killing animals for sheer taste is obviously a subject fraught with ethical concerns about man’s relationship to other creatures that can experience subjectively.
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Make jerky out of some of the venison.Fife wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:47 pm I've got venison thawed out and ready to go, and 2 dozen oysters. I need some quick info here.
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Zing!PartyOf5 wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:33 pmYou appear to need these obvious things pointed out to you.JohnDonne wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:55 pm For example:
In a literal sense the sentence “killing animals for food is a part of life” is a true statement. Yes, within the world animals are routinely slaughtered. However, this is so obvious as to be banal.
Now you're spouting bullshit. I'd explain what bullshit is to you, but that would be so banal.JohnDonne wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:55 pm In another, deeper sense,the statement could mean that nature does not comment on ethics, it merely exists, humans and animals are a part of nature, therefore humans killing animals is ethically fine. That would be mind-blowing, but wait, it’s obviously untrue. Humans make ethical judgments and decisions all the time, and killing animals for sheer taste is obviously a subject fraught with ethical concerns about man’s relationship to other creatures that can experience subjectively.
But oh, you've actually said nothing again.