Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

nmoore63
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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by nmoore63 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:00 pm

I always thought it weird that the vegans folks weren't way more into artificial.

Vegan is the opposite of organic, if you will.

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Not to be confused with the folks that are simply anti the industrial meat industry.

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by Hastur » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:06 pm

Vegans are anti human utopians.
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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by JohnDonne » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:09 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:00 pm
I always thought it weird that the vegans folks weren't way more into artificial.

Vegan is the opposite of organic, if you will.

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Not to be confused with the folks that are simply anti the industrial meat industry.
Hmm, could you explain

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by JohnDonne » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:11 pm

Hastur wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:06 pm
Vegans are anti human utopians.
You say this because sadly you think well-being is a zero sum game.

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by nmoore63 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:15 pm

JohnDonne wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:09 pm
nmoore63 wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:00 pm
I always thought it weird that the vegans folks weren't way more into artificial.

Vegan is the opposite of organic, if you will.

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Not to be confused with the folks that are simply anti the industrial meat industry.
Hmm, could you explain
Well our species eats meat.
To reject that is to reject our natural order. To rise above it in theory.

What's more beyond our nature than artificial products?

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by Hastur » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:15 pm

JohnDonne wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:11 pm
Hastur wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:06 pm
Vegans are anti human utopians.
You say this because sadly you think well-being is a zero sum game.
Shhh. You have no idea what I think. Guess again.
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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by JohnDonne » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:20 pm

Hastur wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:15 pm
JohnDonne wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:11 pm
Hastur wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:06 pm
Vegans are anti human utopians.
You say this because sadly you think well-being is a zero sum game.
Shhh. You have no idea what I think. Guess again.
Why guess when I can read the nonsense you write?

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:33 pm

JohnDonne wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:55 pm
For example:
In a literal sense the sentence “killing animals for food is a part of life” is a true statement. Yes, within the world animals are routinely slaughtered. However, this is so obvious as to be banal.
You appear to need these obvious things pointed out to you.
JohnDonne wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:55 pm
In another, deeper sense,the statement could mean that nature does not comment on ethics, it merely exists, humans and animals are a part of nature, therefore humans killing animals is ethically fine. That would be mind-blowing, but wait, it’s obviously untrue. Humans make ethical judgments and decisions all the time, and killing animals for sheer taste is obviously a subject fraught with ethical concerns about man’s relationship to other creatures that can experience subjectively.
Now you're spouting bullshit. I'd explain what bullshit is to you, but that would be so banal.

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:34 pm

Fife wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:47 pm
I've got venison thawed out and ready to go, and 2 dozen oysters. I need some quick info here.
Make jerky out of some of the venison.

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by JohnDonne » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:38 pm

PartyOf5 wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:33 pm
JohnDonne wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:55 pm
For example:
In a literal sense the sentence “killing animals for food is a part of life” is a true statement. Yes, within the world animals are routinely slaughtered. However, this is so obvious as to be banal.
You appear to need these obvious things pointed out to you.
JohnDonne wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:55 pm
In another, deeper sense,the statement could mean that nature does not comment on ethics, it merely exists, humans and animals are a part of nature, therefore humans killing animals is ethically fine. That would be mind-blowing, but wait, it’s obviously untrue. Humans make ethical judgments and decisions all the time, and killing animals for sheer taste is obviously a subject fraught with ethical concerns about man’s relationship to other creatures that can experience subjectively.
Now you're spouting bullshit. I'd explain what bullshit is to you, but that would be so banal.
Zing!
But oh, you've actually said nothing again.