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Re: Connecticut

Post by heydaralon » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:09 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:33 pm
It all comes down to the urban-rural divide. The city dwellers want to treat the rest of the nation like a fucking slave plantation they can rule over.
I'm not an economist, but what you are describing is exactly how Russia under Stalin, China under Mao, and North Korea under Kil Jong Il treated their rural populations. As a means to an end for their city residents. The urbanites weren't treated well either, but their existence was sustained at the expense of those in the countryside, usually to the point of starvation.
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Re: Connecticut

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:51 am

heydaralon wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:09 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:33 pm
It all comes down to the urban-rural divide. The city dwellers want to treat the rest of the nation like a fucking slave plantation they can rule over.
I'm not an economist, but what you are describing is exactly how Russia under Stalin, China under Mao, and North Korea under Kil Jong Il treated their rural populations. As a means to an end for their city residents. The urbanites weren't treated well either, but their existence was sustained at the expense of those in the countryside, usually to the point of starvation.

The major difference here is that the country folk in the US are armed while the city folk are not. Question is who DoD would side with if it got to that point.

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Re: Connecticut

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:53 am

Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:51 am
heydaralon wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:09 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:33 pm
It all comes down to the urban-rural divide. The city dwellers want to treat the rest of the nation like a fucking slave plantation they can rule over.
I'm not an economist, but what you are describing is exactly how Russia under Stalin, China under Mao, and North Korea under Kil Jong Il treated their rural populations. As a means to an end for their city residents. The urbanites weren't treated well either, but their existence was sustained at the expense of those in the countryside, usually to the point of starvation.

The major difference here is that the country folk in the US are armed while the city folk are not. Question is who DoD would side with if it got to that point.
The ones that sign their checks. Just like every other military that enacted those measures.
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Re: Connecticut

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:37 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:53 am
Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:51 am
heydaralon wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:09 pm


I'm not an economist, but what you are describing is exactly how Russia under Stalin, China under Mao, and North Korea under Kil Jong Il treated their rural populations. As a means to an end for their city residents. The urbanites weren't treated well either, but their existence was sustained at the expense of those in the countryside, usually to the point of starvation.

The major difference here is that the country folk in the US are armed while the city folk are not. Question is who DoD would side with if it got to that point.
The ones that sign their checks. Just like every other military that enacted those measures.
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Re: Connecticut

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:34 am

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What happens when state tax increases kill disposable income and cause home foreclosures on a large scale? I mean, how high can the DNC realistically raise taxes before complete economic collapse?

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Re: Connecticut

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:10 am

Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:34 am
https://www.theday.com/op-edguest-opini ... pCn-0_3AtQ


What happens when state tax increases kill disposable income and cause home foreclosures on a large scale? I mean, how high can the DNC realistically raise taxes before complete economic collapse?
My prediction:

Democratic state governments are going to try to create a soft communist wall to keep tax payers in the state by imposing huge penalties for selling homes and moving out of the state.

California probably will be first, but perhaps it will be Connecticut. Who knows. All I know is that the fatal flaw of the democratic scorched earth tax policy is that tax payers can opt out of these programs by leaving, which is why Detroit almost died as a city. We also are seeing them get increasingly tyrannical with targeted tax policies like the Amazon tax, for example.

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Re: Connecticut

Post by Ph64 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:24 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:10 am
Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:34 am
https://www.theday.com/op-edguest-opini ... pCn-0_3AtQ


What happens when state tax increases kill disposable income and cause home foreclosures on a large scale? I mean, how high can the DNC realistically raise taxes before complete economic collapse?
My prediction:

Democratic state governments are going to try to create a soft communist wall to keep tax payers in the state by imposing huge penalties for selling homes and moving out of the state.

California probably will be first, but perhaps it will be Connecticut. Who knows. All I know is that the fatal flaw of the democratic scorched earth tax policy is that tax payers can opt out of these programs by leaving, which is why Detroit almost died as a city. We also are seeing them get increasingly tyrannical with targeted tax policies like the Amazon tax, for example.
I would be perfectly happy to sell my house and recoup what I paid - which honestly would be less than what it is "worth" on the market these days. If they decide to tax me even more on the sale, then I'd be happy to lower the asking price to sell faster and screw them out of as much as possible. An "exit tax" would just be more motivation for me to leave - pay it once, before the perpetual increases, and get it over with.

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Re: Connecticut

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:28 am

Ph64 wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:24 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:10 am
Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:34 am
https://www.theday.com/op-edguest-opini ... pCn-0_3AtQ


What happens when state tax increases kill disposable income and cause home foreclosures on a large scale? I mean, how high can the DNC realistically raise taxes before complete economic collapse?
My prediction:

Democratic state governments are going to try to create a soft communist wall to keep tax payers in the state by imposing huge penalties for selling homes and moving out of the state.

California probably will be first, but perhaps it will be Connecticut. Who knows. All I know is that the fatal flaw of the democratic scorched earth tax policy is that tax payers can opt out of these programs by leaving, which is why Detroit almost died as a city. We also are seeing them get increasingly tyrannical with targeted tax policies like the Amazon tax, for example.
I would be perfectly happy to sell my house and recoup what I paid - which honestly would be less than what it is "worth" on the market these days. If they decide to tax me even more on the sale, then I'd be happy to lower the asking price to sell faster and screw them out of as much as possible. An "exit tax" would just be more motivation for me to leave - pay it once, before the perpetual increases, and get it over with.
I think you just coined what they will call it. The Exit Tax.


As in.. You can't just reap the benefits of this great democratic party state and then take all the wealth you took from us without giving back your fair share.

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Re: Connecticut

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:44 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:28 am

I think you just coined what they will call it. The Exit Tax.

As in.. You can't just reap the benefits of this great democratic party state and then take all the wealth you took from us without giving back your fair share.
They're called "transfer" taxes - google it. :evil:

So what you do is sell, then move to an apt in state...then leave....

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Re: Connecticut

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:54 am

Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:44 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:28 am

I think you just coined what they will call it. The Exit Tax.

As in.. You can't just reap the benefits of this great democratic party state and then take all the wealth you took from us without giving back your fair share.
They're called "transfer" taxes - google it. :evil:

So what you do is sell, then move to an apt in state...then leave....

But what if they take the tax no matter what, like 30% of the equity, and then refund you after a year if you remain in the state? They can even get tricky with it by letting you use the money as a down payment on a house but then they put on a lean on it for that time period. They could even work with banks to pay them the 30% and then foreclose if you leave the state.

I am sure there will be ways around it, but enough people will be locked in to perpetuate this farce for longer than otherwise would be possible.

I am convinced this is coming.

My experience in Cook county has shown me that trying to get in between a democratic government and your money is like trying to hold back a whore from a paying dick. They always find a way.