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Post by katarn » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:44 pm

Fife wrote:
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Both sides need to look at that argument. I've seen the dissonance in that meme a lot, but I also don't find the underlying logic compelling.
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Post by Montegriffo » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:51 pm

Safer, not safe. Perfect is the enemy of the good.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:29 pm

Watch your face from the acid attacks, bro, while you enjoy your safety.

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Post by Montegriffo » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:50 pm

When police arrived at the scene, Roberson was holding "somebody on the ground with his knee in his back, with his gun in his back," witness Adam Harris said.



"Everybody is screaming out, 'He's a security guard,'" Harris said. "Just waiting on the police to get there. I guess when the police got there, they probably thought he was one of the bad guys, cause he had his gun on the guy and they shot him."

Roberson was licensed to carry a firearm, Ansari said.

Charges were pending Monday against the man who investigators believe fired the initial shots during a dispute. His name has yet to be released, and he remained hospitalized Monday, Anasari said.

Investigators said the initial gunfire was reported around 4 a.m. An officer responding from nearby Midlothian encountered and shot "a subject with a gun," Midlothian Police Chief Daniel Delaney said in a statement. The person was later identified as Roberson.

No details have been released about the officer. Roberson, who was black, was the only person killed in the shooting. The other four people who were shot suffered wounds that weren't considered life-threatening, Anasari said.
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/ ... police-say

Kinda exposes the good guy with a gun fallacy.
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Post by PartyOf5 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:56 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:50 pm
When police arrived at the scene, Roberson was holding "somebody on the ground with his knee in his back, with his gun in his back," witness Adam Harris said.



"Everybody is screaming out, 'He's a security guard,'" Harris said. "Just waiting on the police to get there. I guess when the police got there, they probably thought he was one of the bad guys, cause he had his gun on the guy and they shot him."

Roberson was licensed to carry a firearm, Ansari said.

Charges were pending Monday against the man who investigators believe fired the initial shots during a dispute. His name has yet to be released, and he remained hospitalized Monday, Anasari said.

Investigators said the initial gunfire was reported around 4 a.m. An officer responding from nearby Midlothian encountered and shot "a subject with a gun," Midlothian Police Chief Daniel Delaney said in a statement. The person was later identified as Roberson.

No details have been released about the officer. Roberson, who was black, was the only person killed in the shooting. The other four people who were shot suffered wounds that weren't considered life-threatening, Anasari said.
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/ ... police-say

Kinda exposes the good guy with a gun fallacy.
Says the dipshit that just posted perfect is the enemy of good.

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Post by pineapplemike » Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:43 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:50 pm
When police arrived at the scene, Roberson was holding "somebody on the ground with his knee in his back, with his gun in his back," witness Adam Harris said.



"Everybody is screaming out, 'He's a security guard,'" Harris said. "Just waiting on the police to get there. I guess when the police got there, they probably thought he was one of the bad guys, cause he had his gun on the guy and they shot him."

Roberson was licensed to carry a firearm, Ansari said.

Charges were pending Monday against the man who investigators believe fired the initial shots during a dispute. His name has yet to be released, and he remained hospitalized Monday, Anasari said.

Investigators said the initial gunfire was reported around 4 a.m. An officer responding from nearby Midlothian encountered and shot "a subject with a gun," Midlothian Police Chief Daniel Delaney said in a statement. The person was later identified as Roberson.

No details have been released about the officer. Roberson, who was black, was the only person killed in the shooting. The other four people who were shot suffered wounds that weren't considered life-threatening, Anasari said.
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/ ... police-say

Kinda exposes the good guy with a gun fallacy.
well, except for the good guy with a gun that subdued the bad guy with a gun. that's seriously your take away from that story? the problem here lies with the police officer that shot the good guy with a gun, not with whatever fallacy you think has been exposed

the logical conclusion of your fallacy results in police being the only good guys with guns. and we can clearly see in this story how fallacied your fallacy is, because the police officer shot the guy anyway

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Post by heydaralon » Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:55 pm

It is a fallacious line of intellectual inference to acclamate only specific anecdotes from the narrative only to posit that certain implications of the ocular spectators were ex post facto emotions or speculatory guesses. This sort of specious reasoning is quite a quandry for the soon to be ecclesiastical if this was indeed a church shooting or perhaps even Brandeis should statistical data be in a plentitude or women's rights if the shooter was chromosomally motivated.
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Post by pineapplemike » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:00 pm

i agree. fellatio for all!