The Myth of Birthright Citizenship

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Re: The Myth of Birthright Citizenship

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:50 am

Then amend the Constitution. Right now, if you’re born here then you’re a citizen.
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Re: The Myth of Birthright Citizenship

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:15 am

MilSpecs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:50 am
Then amend the Constitution. Right now, if you’re born here then you’re a citizen.
WRONG

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Re: The Myth of Birthright Citizenship

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:19 am

That’s what it says.
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Re: The Myth of Birthright Citizenship

Post by Fife » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:24 am

MilSpecs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:19 am
That’s what it says.
Now do the 2nd.

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Re: The Myth of Birthright Citizenship

Post by Fife » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:24 am

Or the 10th. Your choice.

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Re: The Myth of Birthright Citizenship

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:42 am

Fife wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:24 am
MilSpecs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:19 am
That’s what it says.
Now do the 2nd.
Accepted. I don’t like it but I have to live with it.
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Re: The Myth of Birthright Citizenship

Post by C-Mag » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:54 am

Fife wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:21 am
I'm not sure if an executive order will do much more than get the issue before SCOTUS, but the same can be said of the preferred (IMNSHO) method of having Congress act. Either way, we'll see what Justice Gorsuch and Justice Pabst have to add to the discussion.

You nailed it out of the gate.
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Re: The Myth of Birthright Citizenship

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:13 am

MilSpecs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:19 am
That’s what it says.
WRONG

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Re: The Myth of Birthright Citizenship

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:16 am

The man who wrote and cosponsored the amendment also wrote this:
Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, [meaning the states – their jurisdiction] is, by virtue of natural law and national law, a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great issue in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.
Go fuck yourself. You don't get to change the meaning of words and phrases in the Constitution to get your genocidal outcome.

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Re: The Myth of Birthright Citizenship

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:52 am

It’s not like there was negotiation between the founders as amendments were drafted because that would imply that they behaved like civilized human beings, and looking at their political descendants clearly negates that theory.
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