Trump's Economic Plan

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Fife » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:12 pm

Some updated charts for this thread.

They money we're blowing is not "imaginary," BTW. It's real, and it's spectacular. :wink:

Why Tax Cuts Without Spending Cuts Won't Bring Economic Growth

On Monday October 15 2018, the US Treasury Department released figures showing that the federal budget deficit had widened by 17% in the 2018 fiscal year, to $779 billion.
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The key focus should not be on the budget deficit as such but rather on government outlays: it is not possible to effectively lower taxes without a reduction in government outlays.

This is because the government as such is not a wealth generating entity. In order to fund its activities it has to take resources from the wealth-generating private sector. Various individuals employed by the government expect compensation for their work. The government can pay these individuals by taxing others who are still generating real wealth. By doing this, the government weakens the wealth-generating process and undermines prospects for genuine economic growth. (We ignore here borrowings from foreigners).
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If the pool of real wealth is in trouble then the declining trend in the money growth momentum could trigger a major economic shock when least expected.


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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:06 pm

Cut taxes and deficits increase, imagine that, then complain that government spends too much on poor people and make cuts. The road to Marxism may be envy but it’s paved with greed.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Fife » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:19 pm

"greed"

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:21 pm

The aristocracy has spoken.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:58 pm

Please. A true aristocracy is all about gibs for the people.

Merchant rule is not a fucking aristocracy by any stretch of the imagination. The farce of rule through the corruption by Koch Brothers, banksters, and fucking Walmart is only sustained by the mercy of the Army.

An aristocracy gains and secures power by force of arms. When Paul Ryan can command an army get back to me about merchant "aristocracies".

Merchants have to learn to carry their own water before they start entertaining illusions of aristocracy. The military can shut them right the fuck down if it wants to.

The American people created an aristocracy when almost 90% of you decided fuck no to military service starting after Vietnam. Now there exists a warrior class, geniuses. That's where an aristocracy comes from.

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:27 pm

An aristocracy can be defeated by revolution, catastrophe, invasion, and taxation. No military takeover ever threw out the aristocracy.

Lowering taxation encourages and strengthens an aristocracy.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:53 pm

An aristocracy has to be defeated in war. Therefore an aristocracy must be a warrior class in order to defend their prerogative.

Merchants are not warriors. Being the most greedy banker does not make one an aristocrat. These men only wield power for as long as the Army allows.

They do not carry their own water and feel they have some inherent place to demand the men who actually do carry the water to defend them. lol.

Until the Army says no.

What exactly do you think you would do when the Army turns against you. The only feasible solution you have is for the veterans and natural warriors to fight the Army on your behalf.

But who's side do you think we are on, Paul Ryan's or General Mattis' side??

The only natural aristocracy in America is the US armed forces backed by the support of veterans.

Literally nobody else in this country has fuck all to say about it, nor could they do anything about it.

Keep voting and immanitize the eschaton. Please. Start printing money. Whatever. It only hastens the day.

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:04 pm

Europe taxed away their aristocracy. All they have left is titles.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:31 pm

Their old aristocracy killed each other in WW1.

A natural aristocracy will form whenever you get a warrior caste.

Email Manuel Zelaya to ask him about what happens when the military pulls the rug out from beneath a civilian government. Honduras is basically a military junta. A poor boy's two paths out of poverty are getting into one of the army's military schools or joining a gang.

This is why Obama went full throttle at taking over the military from the right. Which isn't hard because most of the brass are bleeding heart civic nationalists. For now..

Another exam0le is Venezuela. It's really under military rule. The civilian government is a farce. The Marxists took control of the army a long time ago and now look.

Or Spain and Portugal back in the 20th century.

The people who control the government and share in sovereignty have to fight for those things. Otherwise it destabilizes and the people who actually do fight take over.

My advice to the other 90% of America.. learn to fight if you want to keep popular sovereignty. It's not a right. It's something fought for and won in wars. You have to defend it yourselves. Not somebody else. You. If you are voting you need to be a warrior.

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by nmoore63 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:45 pm

An aristocracy can be defeated by famine there for aristocrats are farmers.

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