Immigrant Invasion - Echoes of Rome

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Re: Immigrant Invasion - Echoes of Rome

Post by BjornP » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:05 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:10 am
BjornP wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:47 am
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Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:52 am


Mostly against Foreign Entanglements, which bring us most of these laws. But since we are currently committed to them I see no reason not to use them toward our advantage.
That is so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel. :P
Cunning, Yes. Weasely, No.
The US has no Constitutional obligation to take anyone in. The Constitution is the supreme law of the land. A series of Foreign Entanglements that subvert the Constitution say we are obligated to take in Asylum seekers. What's weaselly is that Globalists are demanding we take these people in when they are breaking International Law. This Law states they must seek Asylum in the first nation they come to, in this case mostly Mexico. Mexico has followed International Law and offered them Asylum and a home. They have refused. How would the US being doing anything wrong following International Law ?
Ok, you haven't watched the Blackadder series, I guess. :P Wasn't calling you or your argument weasely.

The thing about international law, is that it is, funnily enough, inter-national. It wasn't imposed on the US at any point in time. All the international laws you follow, you signed and ratified them as a country. No more different than an bilateral trade deal with your neighbouring country. So, you're not subverting your sovereignty by signing and ratifiyng international agreements. International law is a good thing...when the laws are sensible, when they can be effective in minimizing international conflicts, and any other cross-border problems that may or can arise in the world.

And you're absolutely right. Legally, it should be Mexico taking them all in. Or whatever country they entered first. You have every right to turn them away, or if you're feeling like it, get them all on a plane and fly them back to (for laughs, to the southern part of) Honduras.

Yes, the MSM leftist media, and SJW twits will call you, Trump and everyone else who don't believe in porous borders "Nazis". Let them scream themselves hoarse till their throats bleed from dryness. It's time you learned to simply ignore them and get on with your lives. Let Them Scream and Carry On. If you're better than them, act like it, like their screaming hysteria simply means nothing. The more you do it, and the more people who do it, the less power they will have. Once people stop fawning over the naked emperor's "clothes", you can all get along with your lives. Even the disillusioned former SJW Hysteriarchate.
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Re: Immigrant Invasion - Echoes of Rome

Post by C-Mag » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:14 pm

BjornP wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:05 pm

The thing about international law, is that it is, funnily enough, inter-national. It wasn't imposed on the US at any point in time. All the international laws you follow, you signed and ratified them as a country. No more different than an bilateral trade deal with your neighbouring country. So, you're not subverting your sovereignty by signing and ratifiyng international agreements. International law is a good thing...when the laws are sensible, when they can be effective in minimizing international conflicts, and any other cross-border problems that may or can arise in the world.

And you're absolutely right. Legally, it should be Mexico taking them all in. Or whatever country they entered first. You have every right to turn them away, or if you're feeling like it, get them all on a plane and fly them back to (for laughs, to the southern part of) Honduras.

Yes, the MSM leftist media, and SJW twits will call you, Trump and everyone else who don't believe in porous borders "Nazis". Let them scream themselves hoarse till their throats bleed from dryness. It's time you learned to simply ignore them and get on with your lives. Let Them Scream and Carry On. If you're better than them, act like it, like their screaming hysteria simply means nothing. The more you do it, and the more people who do it, the less power they will have. Once people stop fawning over the naked emperor's "clothes", you can all get along with your lives. Even the disillusioned former SJW Hysteriarchate
Sure, we have signed tons of these agreements voluntarily, and all Western Nations have. I maintain these agreements can and do subvert the the US Constitution n areas.

I disagree that we should ignore the Globalists and SJWs. They have done tremendous damage to our culture, society and nation because we have ignored them. It's not just talk on the TV. No, they actively seek to change our laws and force us to live by their desires.
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Re: Immigrant Invasion - Echoes of Rome

Post by BjornP » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:05 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:14 pm

I disagree that we should ignore the Globalists and SJWs. They have done tremendous damage to our culture, society and nation because we have ignored them. It's not just talk on the TV. No, they actively seek to change our laws and force us to live by their desires.
Well, globalists are much stronger politically than SJW's. I was talking about ignoring hysteria and social pressure from social media, instead of engaging it. Globalists don't engage in dialogue at all. They'll get paid to speak at some venue for a couple million an hour, accept questions that validate their thinking, then get on a plane and pretend that they're "world citizens". They don't engage in society and have no need to. Unlike the SJW's who scream about society to change, the globalists... and I'm talking its main proponents who are usually business professionals, they are above society. They are a global elite, and they have bound themselves and their interests up with the interests of governments - essentially letting national governments destroy their sovereignty.

There is also a solution to that I think, but since globalism - by it's very nature - exists and works outside of national borders, the solution must also be global. Preferebly confiscation of assets and enacing laws that reaffirm national sovereignty as the primary importance of all international rules and laws. Ironic, in a sense, I know.
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Re: Immigrant Invasion - Echoes of Rome

Post by C-Mag » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:20 pm

I see Globalists and SJWs much more closely related than you do. Here are some of the common themes both push.

Collectivism
State power over Individual Liberty
Erasing international borders through laws and treaties to promote their vision of the future

The Globalists clearly look at financial benefits for themselves first and SJWs revenge for perceived past wrongs. But neither is in touch the reality of global poverty as demonstrated by the Gum Ball demonstration; or they simply don't care.

No nation on this planet can maintain themselves if they take in unchecked immigrants. They too will collapse under the weight of so many.
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Re: Immigrant Invasion - Echoes of Rome

Post by C-Mag » Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:27 pm

DHS Secretary to Caravan: 'You Are Not Getting In'

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Re: Immigrant Invasion - Echoes of Rome

Post by C-Mag » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:20 pm

Operation Faithful Patriot underway.


Includes
Fixed Wing Aircraft
V-Tol Aircraft
Drones
Temporary Fencing and Barriers (C-Wire and Hesco's)
and a Brigade sized Active military force(5200) which will join the current 2000 National Guard Troops currently deployed to the border with Operation Guardian Support.

Note:
Reporters did ask and it was confirmed Active Duty Troops will be armed,
No word on whether or not the Drones will have Hellfire Missiles. :snooty:
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Re: Immigrant Invasion - Echoes of Rome

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:03 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:20 pm
Operation Faithful Patriot underway.


Includes
Fixed Wing Aircraft
V-Tol Aircraft
Drones
Temporary Fencing and Barriers (C-Wire and Hesco's)
and a Brigade sized Active military force(5200) which will join the current 2000 National Guard Troops currently deployed to the border with Operation Guardian Support.

Note:
Reporters did ask and it was confirmed Active Duty Troops will be armed,
No word on whether or not the Drones will have Hellfire Missiles. :snooty:

What about non-lethal Directed Energy Weapons....like the one that makes you feel like you're on fire?

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Re: Immigrant Invasion - Echoes of Rome

Post by C-Mag » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:23 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:03 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:20 pm
Operation Faithful Patriot underway.


Includes
Fixed Wing Aircraft
V-Tol Aircraft
Drones
Temporary Fencing and Barriers (C-Wire and Hesco's)
and a Brigade sized Active military force(5200) which will join the current 2000 National Guard Troops currently deployed to the border with Operation Guardian Support.

Note:
Reporters did ask and it was confirmed Active Duty Troops will be armed,
No word on whether or not the Drones will have Hellfire Missiles. :snooty:

What about non-lethal Directed Energy Weapons....like the one that makes you feel like you're on fire?

Non-Lethal Weapons will be deployed. They are probably sending a Battalion of MPs, probably out of Fort Riley.
Because the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the U.S. military from performing law enforcement activities within the United States, the troops will be in support roles only. They will not have arresting power and won't interact with migrants.
Those deployed will include engineers, planners, military police, pilots, cooks and medical personnel. Among the work the troops will undertake is the building of camps to house CBP personnel along the Mexican border.
The troops will come from Army bases around the country, including Fort Bragg in North Carolina, Fort Riley in Kansas, Fort Campbell in Kentucky and Joint Base Lewis McChord in Washington state. By the end of the week, they'll head to staging bases in California, South Texas and Arizona.
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/29/66186389 ... ico-border

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Re: Immigrant Invasion - Echoes of Rome

Post by C-Mag » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:52 pm

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What about non-lethal Directed Energy Weapons....like the one that makes you feel like you're on fire?
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Then of course we have the L-Rad



BTW: These are basically old technologies, we probably have much better stuff today
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