Socialism

[TheReal_ND]

Because it would do the most harm to the society that oppresses your kind so. Brothers in arms here. In Israel, not so much lel

Why would they want to bring down the very western country that saved them from extinction? Leftism leads to communisim which is not Jew friendly - your theory makes no sense.

Communism is jewish.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/07/arts ... ienna.html

Jews are at more of a risk of being exterminated in the absence of a Christian Jew friendly majority western super power.

Hmm what?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsi ... es_of_Jews

Yeah it's the craziest thing. The jew cries out as he strikes at you.

I must have missed that memo. I'll try and remember to cry out in pain the next time I collect rent from my Christian tenants. I'll have to ask my Rabbi what to do when I collect rent from my Hindu & Shinto tenants, the relationship is kind of obscure. Do they opress us or do we oppress them?

Neither? I knew some Israelis that hated Indians though.

[brewster]

Why would they want to bring down the very western country that saved them from extinction? Leftism leads to communisim which is not Jew friendly - your theory makes no sense.

Communism is jewish.

Communism doesn't have a religion any more than Capitalism does, Not many Jews in China or Venezuela. Russia was anti-Semitic before Communism, Russia was anti-Semitic during Communism. Russia is anti-Semitic after Communism. Besides, it's an astoundingly stupid argument given how many Jews are among the leading "Capitalists" of Wall Street and America's boardrooms. Some American Jews were ComSymps before the war when they were poor, duh. When they got rich it was tough on them. I dated a girl whose parents were old school NY commies, and then her dad got rich because he was Woody Guthrie's manager. That was a conflicted family!

I knew some Israelis that hated Indians though.

Probably were on the losing end of a diamond deal. You know even Indian diamond dealers close handshake transactions with each other in Yiddish? "Mazel und Bruchah".

[Speaker to Animals]

The problem with socialism is that the motto "no taxation without representation" could and should also be construed to mean "no representation without taxation". The people who don't pay the costs want socialism for obvious reasons.

One shouldn't be required to pay the costs for nationhood without having a voice in its destiny, but it's also true that nobody who pays zero costs for nationhood should have a vote. Every vote from a person who never served and doesn't even pay net taxes (like many women, for example) cancels out the vote of a person who does pay the costs. When the numbers of non-payers exceed the numbers of payers, you will end up with socialism.

[TheReal_ND]

Why would they want to bring down the very western country that saved them from extinction? Leftism leads to communisim which is not Jew friendly - your theory makes no sense.

Communism is jewish.

Communism doesn't have a religion any more than Capitalism does, Not many Jews in China or Venezuela. Russia was anti-Semitic before Communism, Russia was anti-Semitic during Communism. Russia is anti-Semitic after Communism. Besides, it's an astoundingly stupid argument given how many Jews are among the leading "Capitalists" of Wall Street and America's boardrooms. Some American Jews were ComSymps before the war when they were poor, duh. When they got rich it was tough on them. I dated a girl whose parents were old school NY commies, and then her dad got rich because he was Woody Guthrie's manager. That was a conflicted family!

I knew some Israelis that hated Indians though.

Probably were on the losing end of a diamond deal. You know even Indian diamond dealers close handshake transactions with each other in Yiddish? "Mazel und Bruchah".

I think it was because they hated doing business with them at all. They try to be highly transactional like jews but they are shitty at it. Also, just lol at "well a few were commies," try the entire bolshevik revolution. The wermacht couldn't throw a stone without hitting a jewish commie on the osfront. And that was after Stalin had begun his purging of then leninist jews. There were jews that weren't commie and strongly identified with their western countries sure but not all that many once it became clear nobody wanted them around. Cant blame the germans after all the degeneracy of Weimar era jewry. What they own London too big whoop. Our entire media, Hollywood and New York, wall street the fed etc etc nobody cares because of how persecuted they really are by golly.

Also do you have a blue checkmark? I think jews are handed blue checkmark twitter accounts at birth or something. The whole place is lousy with jewish check marks wailing about Trump and the evil White Supremes.

[brewster]

The problem with socialism is that the motto "no taxation without representation" could and should also be construed to mean "no representation without taxation". The people who don't pay the costs want socialism for obvious reasons.

That sounds nice and clean, but the reason some people who pay taxes want, or at least tolerate, Socialism is they don't want guillotines or actual Communism. Unions and Social Security were anticommunist tools, the 'winner take all' wealth disparity of the Gilded Age followed by the Depression left the US ripe for Communist gains.

The fall of the Soviets suspiciously coincided with the decline in how US employers treat their workers, Communism was no longer a credible threat. Story in the Times today comparing how Sears of old and Amazon treat their workers. Sears had a strong stock sharing plan that made their workers solidly Middle Class at the end of their careers, Amazon just phased out their far more meager one.

[heydaralon]

I'm guessing you have probably not seen Lady Bird, being the uncultured shitstain that you are.

I saw it, relatives from Sacramento insisted since it's the only movie ever to make that city look like less than living hell. It was OK. Good films are good films, the identity of the auteur should not matter. I'm sick of identity bullshit. We HATED Lost in Translation that everyone fawned over for being by a rich young woman whose daddy was a famous director. Scarlett Johansson's character was a whiny spoiled bitch who had no idea how to enjoy hanging out in one of the worlds great cities.

I never saw Lady Bird, I just know that it was a good film from the RT reviews.

Also, I've heard that aside from its politics and tax rate, Sacramento is a pretty solid town to live in. My cousin's ex lived there, and it looked pretty nice. She wasn't super rich either because that can skew perception of a city. Lived in an average middle class neighborhood.

[brewster]

Also, I've heard that aside from its politics and tax rate, Sacramento is a pretty solid town to live in.

Suburban blandless aside, It's average July temp is 93. That's average, meaning 50% of the time it's hotter. I've heard 110 for weeks at a time. Nope, nope, nope, even though it's got decent fishing there in the river.

[heydaralon]

Also, I've heard that aside from its politics and tax rate, Sacramento is a pretty solid town to live in.

Suburban blandless aside, It's average July temp is 93. That's average, meaning 50% of the time it's hotter. I've heard 110 for weeks at a time. Nope, nope, nope, even though it's got decent fishing there in the river.

Goddamn I didn't realize it was that hot. Fuck that indeed. There is a youtube channel I really enjoy called Fisherman's Life, and that dude lives somewhere in Cali. He mainly does saltwater fishing but the beaches he goes to are the shit. A lot more rocky than Florida ones.

[brewster]

On topic, in the Times today:

The White House Council of Economic Advisers on Tuesday published a 72-page report criticizing what it described as the socialist ideas of leading Democratic Party politicians, and seeking to link President Trump’s political rivals with figures reviled by most Americans.
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What is socialism, anyway?
It’s a strange question to ask at the end of a 72-page report, but it’s one that the authors leave up for debate. Most important, they don’t define as “socialist” anything that the United States government currently does.

The federal government has long embraced important elements of a socialist agenda, such as providing retirement benefits and health care for poor children and older people. The report finesses this inconvenient truth by defining socialism as any effort to increase the government’s involvement in the economy. Thus the current Medicare program, which provides socialized medicine for older Americans, is defined as ideologically acceptable, while proposals to expand Medicaid are termed “socialized medicine.”

Let’s be clear, though: The report is decidedly not about “communism.” The authors detail why, in a footnote on Page 4:

For classical socialists, “communism” is a purely theoretical concept that has never yet been put into practice, which is why the second “S” in U.S.S.R. stands for “Socialist.” Communism is, in their view, a social arrangement where there is neither a state nor private property; the abolition of property is not sufficient for communism. As Lenin explained, “The goal of socialism is communism.” The supposed purpose of the “Great Leap Forward” was for China to transition from socialism to communism before the U.S.S.R. did (Dikӧtter 2010). The classical definition therefore stands in contrast to vernacular usage of communism to refer to historical instances of socialism where the degree of control was the highest, such as the U.S.S.R., Cuba, North Korea, or Maoist China. This report therefore avoids the term “communism.”

Ah, the old "stare decisis" defense of the status quo, but draw the line! Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough, add a certain amount of Socialism to the list.

There is a youtube channel I really enjoy called Fisherman's Life, and that dude lives somewhere in Cali. He mainly does saltwater fishing but the beaches he goes to are the shit. A lot more rocky than Florida ones.

Check out the channel of EliasVfishing. Till he moved to NC this year he fished my home waters around NYC. He went from bailing striped bass to bailing bull reds.

[Speaker to Animals]

The problem with socialism is that the motto "no taxation without representation" could and should also be construed to mean "no representation without taxation". The people who don't pay the costs want socialism for obvious reasons.

That sounds nice and clean, but the reason some people who pay taxes want, or at least tolerate, Socialism is they don't want guillotines or actual Communism. Unions and Social Security were anticommunist tools, the 'winner take all' wealth disparity of the Gilded Age followed by the Depression left the US ripe for Communist gains.

The fall of the Soviets suspiciously coincided with the decline in how US employers treat their workers, Communism was no longer a credible threat. Story in the Times today comparing how Sears of old and Amazon treat their workers. Sears had a strong stock sharing plan that made their workers solidly Middle Class at the end of their careers, Amazon just phased out their far more meager one.

You only supported my point. When we protected the American worker, the middle class grew substantially. All those men in the mid-twentieth century working middle class jobs were tax payers. Women got married and generally stayed that way, not becoming wards of a socialist state as about half of the female millennial mothers have becone.