Responses to Matriarchy vs. Patriarchy

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Re: Responses to Matriarchy vs. Patriarchy

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:30 am

Zlaxer wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:09 am

Hold on there - you spoke in terms of “normal” and “abnormal states”, and that we never should have been in an initial state where Men were dominant.


And what is replacing the “family” institution (that you say is never comming back) that is so much better than the family?
Again, I said “authoritarian marriage” and you heard “the family.”
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Re: Responses to Matriarchy vs. Patriarchy

Post by Fife » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:39 am

When does the normalcy start?

I'm ready to see the women mining the coal and logging the timber, and the men baking cakes and washing diapers. And the stork bringing the babies again.

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Re: Responses to Matriarchy vs. Patriarchy

Post by Zlaxer » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:55 am

Hastur wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:20 am
When did we start worshiping victimhood?

When we extended the right to vote to the uneducated.

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Re: Responses to Matriarchy vs. Patriarchy

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:00 am

Zlaxer wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:55 am
Hastur wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:20 am
When did we start worshiping victimhood?

When we extended the right to vote to the uneducated.
It began with the Puritans. This was a culture dominated by hysterical women. The author of Albion's Seed described the founding of Yankeedom something like this: Puritans immigrated in large numbers from the eastern English counties over the span of about twenty years, and brought their husbands along. This Yankee culture is what gets you witch trials, Red Scares, etc. Perpetual moral panic and nancyism.

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Re: Responses to Matriarchy vs. Patriarchy

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:02 am

Fife wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:39 am

I'm ready to see the women mining the coal and logging the timber, and the men baking cakes and washing diapers. And the stork bringing the babies again.
Because we still live in the 1800s? Technology is supposed to be freeing us all from scutwork.

And I believe babies are still a collaborative effort.
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Re: Responses to Matriarchy vs. Patriarchy

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:05 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:00 am

It began with the Puritans. This was a culture dominated by hysterical women. The author of Albion's Seed described the founding of Yankeedom something like this: Puritans immigrated in large numbers from the eastern English counties over the span of about twenty years, and brought their husbands along. This Yankee culture is what gets you witch trials, Red Scares, etc. Perpetual moral panic and nancyism.
Preach, Cotton.
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Re: Responses to Matriarchy vs. Patriarchy

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:07 am

MilSpecs wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:05 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:00 am

It began with the Puritans. This was a culture dominated by hysterical women. The author of Albion's Seed described the founding of Yankeedom something like this: Puritans immigrated in large numbers from the eastern English counties over the span of about twenty years, and brought their husbands along. This Yankee culture is what gets you witch trials, Red Scares, etc. Perpetual moral panic and nancyism.
Preach, Cotton.
Southland was fucked in it's own way.

The difference here is that nobody has kicked your asses and forced you to confront your more corrosive cultural attributes (yet), but that day seems upon us if you keep up with this war on civilization itself.

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Re: Responses to Matriarchy vs. Patriarchy

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:12 am

Hastur wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:20 am

Everyone has it "better" now than at any time in history. The whole idea that there has been some kind of historical oppression that needs to be rectified stinks of Marxism. Dividing people into groups and handing out oppression points is never going to lead us to a better place. The current race for being the biggest victim is a sickness upon society. When did we start worshiping victimhood? That's not how any of this works.
What is this new foundation that will replace the old bad one? What even was the old bad one? The nuclear family is a pretty recent invention and the jury is still out on whether it's a good idea.
The natural environment for humans seems to be tribes of around 150 individuals. That is what we are designed for.
Progress doesn't = revenge. This is my beef with the current climate of the left; the emphasis on revenge. In reality, we can never make up for it anyway. Revenge is not even possible.

Also I'm not talking about family structure but family dynamics.
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Re: Responses to Matriarchy vs. Patriarchy

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:15 am

How are we supposed to have "progress" with your Marxist program when you obviously do not even view half the population as fully human beings worthy of the same rights as you?

That is not progress for men.

It is not progress for whites

Making classes of people inferior in rights and priveleges is not "progress" for anybody but those who get to benefit at their expense.

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Re: Responses to Matriarchy vs. Patriarchy

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:18 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:15 am
How are we supposed to have "progress" with your Marxist program when you obviously do not even view half the population as fully human beings worthy of the same rights as you?

That is not progress for men.

It is not progress for whites

Making classes of people inferior in rights and priveleges is not "progress" for anybody but those who get to benefit at their expense.
You're being irrational again. Remove the emotion and replace it with rational discourse.
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