If Any Female Wants to Post

[Zlaxer]

We’re up to 7 pages with maybe 6 on-topic posts.

And here you go:

Both parties are nauseating, but the republicans are more likely to kill via dehydration. It’s always the lesser of two evils, but the republicans are basically twiddling their mustaches while we’re tied to a railroad track at this point. We still have little representation. The minority are still imposing their beliefs on us.

This brings me to the biggest issue: the disconnect of white men with the numbers. I see it here all the time. We the People are majority female and nonwhite. We’ve always been majority female. We’ve always been treated like we’re the minority. Female is the default state of the citizenry and this most basic of facts isn’t even acknowledged.

As to the future: young women are far more pissed off than we were at inequality, just as black folks got angrier as each generation passed. Now the republicans are pissing off the moderates and the older women, and we know how to organize and fund. If Roe v wade is overturned, I predict that the largest protest in history will take place because it will signal the return of women to chattel status, and it will be a minority of the populace that attempts to control the majority by force. Most women aren’t personally affected by roe v wade, but it’s the line that can’t be crossed.

I’m at work so my responses will have to be limited until after dinner.

Take into account that the left and right each want a system of government that is incompatible with the other. It's time for a split.

[Martin Hash]

Thank you, MilSpecs. You have been very patient with us.

[Zlaxer]

@MilSpec - this fight is much bigger than abortion rights. It's about the role of government. one group wants limited government - the other wants massive government.

You're going to fall on your sword for abortion when it's going to result in your other rights being eviscerated.

Eventually, everyone will realize a split must occur...I think most have...the camps are forming.

[DBTrek]

Women and minorities do make up the vast majority of US citizens. And they can vote.

So ... somehow between controlling the lions share of votes and the elected representation, it was decided by women and minorities that “white men” were controlling everyone. Has anyone explained this phenomena yet?


It’s like the hiring manager complaining that there are too many people of X demographic on staff.

[Martin Hash]

She answered as if biological sex were the determining factor rather than ideology. That's what's changed in the last couple decades; what the dividing line is.

[MilSpecs]

Take into account that the left and right each want a system of government that is incompatible with the other. It's time for a split.

We’re talking about the sexes, not the political ideologies. And again, consider the facts: the far more powerful cities (especially the port cities and major airports) are not majority conservative white guys.

[Kath]

Make your point, and don’t get hung up in one of those loops.

My thoughts are nuanced, so some will not read past this sentence and think they know everything I believe on this.

I, personally, do not know any women my age or older who were not subjected to some sort of sexual harassment, stalking or rape in the 70's, 80's and/or early 90's. This has gotten much, MUCH better.

I was sexually harassed at my first two workplaces; not anywhere else. Unwanted hands rubbing on shoulders or unwanted fingers crawling up skirts was not pleasant when the person doing it is in a position of power over me. Most women felt that way. There was nobody to complain to back then. It was deal or quit. I loathe unwanted attention and back then, I was a virgin. It was creepy to have 40 and 50 year old men giving me that sort of physical attention.

A friend of mine was required to work with a board member once a month. She would throw up those mornings, before work, because he wouldn't keep his hands off of her. When she complained to her boss, she was told the board member was more valuable than her, so she could quit or tolerate. Those were her choices, so she ended up quitting when he started to get too close to the "goods" while he was going up her skirt.

I was date-raped once, but I didn't complain because during that time, it was always the woman's fault if raped on a date. It wasn't even an option to consider. Remember, these years were not too far from the years when husbands could not be found guilty of raping their wives. I blamed myself, because that was the mindset that was instilled into us back then; women were not to be believed.

The #metoo movement is in response to that. It got carried away, though, because the casting couch was a known entity going back to the 1930's. It is unfair that women had to lie on their backs to get a job, but they chose it. It's a tough one, because if that's the life you wanted, that was the entry fee. So, were they complicit? Sure, they could have given up their dream.... what a shitty choice. To complain, now, is silly, but I have no issue with it being brought up, merely to point to how far we've come.

Now, regarding the Clown Show that is our judicial approval process. It is entirely possible she is telling A truth, but Feinstein handled this like the clown she is and didn't take it seriously, herself, so it's hard to take the entire accusation seriously. Sexual assault at parties like that 30 years ago is not hard to believe, though, without even knowing any facts. Again, this happened to me at the Superbowl party I threw in 1985 (Bears 46, Pats 10,)
but I got away before it got too far and I had a male friend throw him out.

I don't remember very many details of when I was date raped. We were drinking. All I remember is pushing him away and saying no no no. He apologized the next morning without my prompting, so he was aware he got carried away. We went our separate ways. Other than what house we were at, I couldn't tell you any other details.

Again, this kind of stuff was normal for women.

All that said, I do not believe that we should ever hold someone's actions of the past to today's cultural norms. This kind of "going too far," thing was normal back then. This is why she didn't report it. The statute of limitations is up.

All that said, I wish that the conversation about Kavanaugh could have been about his supposed hatred of the 4th. That's a very real concern I have, but it's pushed to the side, because I'm a woman, so therefore everyone assumes I believe he is guilty of stuff that is unknowable. So, with a huge thanks to Feinstein, we have a new justice who may relish at the thought of curtailing my freedom even more, because instead of discussing his views on the 4th, we had to talk about beer, farting and yearbook committee activities.

Fuck partisans. They suck.

[MilSpecs]

Thank you, MilSpecs. You have been very patient with us.

My pleasure, thank you for providing this platform.

[Fife]

Take into account that the left and right each want a system of government that is incompatible with the other. It's time for a split.

We’re talking about the sexes, not the political ideologies. And again, consider the facts: the far more powerful cities (especially the port cities and major airports) are not majority conservative white guys.

Far more powerful than what? As a statement of fact, that's ambiguous. Please explain the power relationship you are talking about.

[Kath]

one group wants limited government - the other wants massive government.

So you are talking about the difference between Team RedBlue and Team Libertarian? Because, from where I sit, there are no Republicans, except Rand Paul, who have any desire to reduce the size of government, nor curtail spending.

Well, really, though, at least the Republicans pretend to want to curtail spending and reduce government size, but (big but,) only when Democrats are in charge. Once team R gets control, it's spending like drunken sailor time.