Relativity is Relatively Misunderstood

[Martin Hash]

Those jokers that fly airplanes around the world real fast then claim they've proved time travel (or dilation, whatever you want to call it) have only proved that the speed of light is constant and that their onboard measuring equipment didn't take that into account. (How could it?)

Here's a way to check:
A bullet shoots two rays of light, one back and one forward along its path. Measure the time each ray was received at either end of the path; the total will be the same time it takes a single ray of light to get from one receiver to the next. If time was different in the bullet, that wouldn't be the case.

If the bullet continuously shot rays, beams of light, and measurements were continually made at the receivers, the time since the bullet started at one receiver and ended at the other would HAVE TO BE THE SAME as the time in the bullet because the bullet is shooting the beams.

What is the speed of your bullet? What is its mass?

What does it look like to you as a stationary observer right before you fire it off? What does it look like to you as you make your measurements after it is in motion?

That's what's great about my experiment, the bullet makes no difference; it's speed, who cares; it's mass, no impact; it's color, pfft; nothing about that bullet makes any difference to the speed of light or time.

p.s. Gravitation (another wave) does have an impact on light (it curves it) but it doesn't slow it down, so no impact on the experiment.

[Speaker to Animals]

If you think you can falsify general relativity, then my suggestion is to write a paper and submit it to an appropriate journal for peer review.

Dude, I have 3 doctorates, and am the only simultaneously licensed doctor, lawyer, accountant & engineer in the the world, and that gives me no credibility. Getting another doctorate will add exactly zero to that credibility. I need to be famous, and when I'm famous, doctorates in anything are gold, and apply to all fields.

Science cares fuck all for paper on your wall. If you can disprove relativity, you should submit the paper, and I guarantee you will be famous overnight.

Paper on the wall doesn't prove a God damned thing. Lots of useless people have doctorates.

[Martin Hash]

Like I've said, I don't respect your input in this matter any more than you respect mine, just quit posting about it.

[Martin Hash]

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Proof this, mutterfukker.

p.s. One of the nice things about having my own forum is that I can post any goddamn thing I want.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's ironic that Martin complains about this censorious behavior when he is the target.

[DBTrek]

Do heteros and homos delete differently?

[Martin Hash]

It's ironic that Martin complains about this censorious behavior when he is the target.

This ain't the thread for it but I've already said my opinion of Free Speech has changed since running for federal office, plus experiencing how this forum had become a detriment to my personal aspirations.

"Those who don't adjust are doomed to fail." - me

[Fife]

What is the speed of your bullet? What is its mass?

What does it look like to you as a stationary observer right before you fire it off? What does it look like to you as you make your measurements after it is in motion?

That's what's great about my experiment, the bullet makes no difference; it's speed, who cares; it's mass, no impact; it's color, pfft; nothing about that bullet makes any difference to the speed of light or time.

p.s. Gravitation (another wave) does have an impact on light (it curves it) but it doesn't slow it down, so no impact on the experiment.

What does your experiment show again, other than the speed of light is a constant to all observers?

If that's it, well OK I guess.

If you intend to somehow show that passage of time is a constant, your magic bullet doesn't tell me anything at all about that.

[Martin Hash]

What is the speed of your bullet? What is its mass?

What does it look like to you as a stationary observer right before you fire it off? What does it look like to you as you make your measurements after it is in motion?

That's what's great about my experiment, the bullet makes no difference; it's speed, who cares; it's mass, no impact; it's color, pfft; nothing about that bullet makes any difference to the speed of light or time.

p.s. Gravitation (another wave) does have an impact on light (it curves it) but it doesn't slow it down, so no impact on the experiment.

What does your experiment show again, other than the speed of light is a constant to all observers?

If that's it, well OK I guess.

If you intend to somehow show that passage of time is a constant, your magic bullet doesn't tell me anything at all about that.

I thought you fancied yourself a logistician? Of course it does, I laid it out (see "beam" discussion above.)

[SuburbanFarmer]

Those jokers that fly airplanes around the world real fast then claim they've proved time travel (or dilation, whatever you want to call it) have only proved that the speed of light is constant and that their onboard measuring equipment didn't take that into account. (How could it?)

Here's a way to check:
A bullet shoots two rays of light, one back and one forward along its path. Measure the time each ray was received at either end of the path; the total will be the same time it takes a single ray of light to get from one receiver to the next. If time was different in the bullet, that wouldn't be the case.

If the bullet continuously shot rays, beams of light, and measurements were continually made at the receivers, the time since the bullet started at one receiver and ended at the other would HAVE TO BE THE SAME as the time in the bullet because the bullet is shooting the beams.

It is the same, but you'll receive more compressed light at the destination detector, than the departure detector. See: Redshift.

Also, a bullet is moving nowhere near relativistic speeds. Spacecraft go many times faster.