Marxism Never Died, It Just Went Underground

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Re: Marxism Never Died, It Just Went Underground

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:12 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:10 pm
The fight is NOT for Capitalism, and it is NOT for democracy, and it is NOT for Nationalism - it is for LIBERTY.
Show me the liberty absent of Western Europeans.

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Re: Marxism Never Died, It Just Went Underground

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:14 pm

Education IS one of my political issues.

p.s. I will be listing NO issues next time; they just give people something to hate, and nobody follows me because of them.
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Re: Marxism Never Died, It Just Went Underground

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:16 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:12 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:10 pm
The fight is NOT for Capitalism, and it is NOT for democracy, and it is NOT for Nationalism - it is for LIBERTY.
Show me the liberty absent of Western Europeans.
Their legal system. They are Collectivists; the needs of the group come before the wants of an individual. It’s also culturally Collectivist.
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Re: Marxism Never Died, It Just Went Underground

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:17 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:12 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:05 pm
Give me a kid for 6 hours a day for 16 years and I’ll make him believe a man can come back from the dead, or ride a flying horse. I can also preach the tenets of Marxism, but hidden in environmentalism, civil rights, and feminism, so that The Patriarchy doesn’t know a coup is happening until it has.
I agree that a big reason this shit is happening is from the education system. The market is not going to fix that problem because most people don't care enough to send their kids to private schools, or charter schools, and teachers unions/administrators/Dem politicians/media will fight that idea tooth and nail. Most people who hate SJW stuff don't want to be teachers either. Hell, I could be a teacher if I wanted, but I have no desire to be placed in a ghetto area and become jaded by all of the red tape, beauracracy, and general disinterest of the students and teachers. I remember how shitty my public school teachers were. Its probably gotten worse. If your goal is to fix the system in that regard, you would have to convince a bunch of conservative people to sign on to become public school teachers. Maybe when you run for office next time that can be one of your political issues.
I think you would make a great Social Studies teacher. No joke. You have the potential to light little light bulbs in a nervous youth's mind. Shouldn't sleep on it dude.
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:16 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:12 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:10 pm
The fight is NOT for Capitalism, and it is NOT for democracy, and it is NOT for Nationalism - it is for LIBERTY.
Show me the liberty absent of Western Europeans.
Their legal system. They are Collectivists, the needs of the group come before the wants of an individual. It’s also culturally Collectivist.
As it currently stands you are absolutely correct. The EU is trying to remove Switzerland's rights as we are speaking.

Fucking shame. If things had gone a little differently.....

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Re: Marxism Never Died, It Just Went Underground

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:20 pm

America was founded on liberty, expressly recognizes it in the judicial system, and USED to indoctrinate our youth with it. MAGA is a return to those days. Unfortunately, we’re 30 years behind the 8-ball on Marxist indoctrination.
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Re: Marxism Never Died, It Just Went Underground

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:22 pm

What do you think would have happened if we didnt arm the Russians and never got involved? Would we still be hegemonic on the world stage? Does that even matter? I mean hell they arent even allowed to buy a bag of plastic butter knives and I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with us.

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Re: Marxism Never Died, It Just Went Underground

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:26 pm

The words “Marxism” & “Socialism” are modern terms for old, old altruistic and envy-based concepts. Hell, Christianity is Marxist. It’s Slave morality, and slaves have always existed, even if we do call them “Workers” now.
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Re: Marxism Never Died, It Just Went Underground

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:17 am

America was not founded on "liberty". For fuck sake, let the myths go.

It was not until the twentieth century that people even began to conceive of liberty (in the abstract) for all. Historically, when people fought for liberty, it was for specific liberties and only for themselves. The Spartans fought and died for their liberty, and they were the greatest collectivist/slave state in history until the October Revolution. Magna Carta was for the liberties of the barons and counts. America was for the liberty of the property-owning men who served in the mitia, and even then their concept of liberty was not the same as your own. They'd have hung your abortion-supporting ass a long time ago.

Build a time machine to go live in post-revolution New England and start doing some yardwork on Sunday. Tell me about your liberty then.

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Re: Marxism Never Died, It Just Went Underground

Post by GloryofGreece » Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:28 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:17 am
America was not founded on "liberty". For fuck sake, let the myths go.

It was not until the twentieth century that people even began to conceive of liberty (in the abstract) for all. Historically, when people fought for liberty, it was for specific liberties and only for themselves. The Spartans fought and died for their liberty, and they were the greatest collectivist/slave state in history until the October Revolution. Magna Carta was for the liberties of the barons and counts. America was for the liberty of the property-owning men who served in the mitia, and even then their concept of liberty was not the same as your own. They'd have hung your abortion-supporting ass a long time ago.

Build a time machine to go live in post-revolution New England and start doing some yardwork on Sunday. Tell me about your liberty then.
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Re: Marxism Never Died, It Just Went Underground

Post by GloryofGreece » Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:31 am

TheReal_ND wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:17 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:12 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:05 pm
Give me a kid for 6 hours a day for 16 years and I’ll make him believe a man can come back from the dead, or ride a flying horse. I can also preach the tenets of Marxism, but hidden in environmentalism, civil rights, and feminism, so that The Patriarchy doesn’t know a coup is happening until it has.
I agree that a big reason this shit is happening is from the education system. The market is not going to fix that problem because most people don't care enough to send their kids to private schools, or charter schools, and teachers unions/administrators/Dem politicians/media will fight that idea tooth and nail. Most people who hate SJW stuff don't want to be teachers either. Hell, I could be a teacher if I wanted, but I have no desire to be placed in a ghetto area and become jaded by all of the red tape, beauracracy, and general disinterest of the students and teachers. I remember how shitty my public school teachers were. Its probably gotten worse. If your goal is to fix the system in that regard, you would have to convince a bunch of conservative people to sign on to become public school teachers. Maybe when you run for office next time that can be one of your political issues.
I think you would make a great Social Studies teacher. No joke. You have the potential to light little light bulbs in a nervous youth's mind. Shouldn't sleep on it dude.
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:16 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:12 pm

Show me the liberty absent of Western Europeans.
Their legal system. They are Collectivists, the needs of the group come before the wants of an individual. It’s also culturally Collectivist.
As it currently stands you are absolutely correct. The EU is trying to remove Switzerland's rights as we are speaking.

Fucking shame. If things had gone a little differently.....
I'm a History teacher at a public school in the mid Atlantic. Have mercy on my soul.
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