Late Cycle Capitalism

[Speaker to Animals]

According to Juliet Schor, Professor of Sociology at Boston College, before capitalism was invented in the 19th century people mainly worked very leisurely days.

In a paper titled The Overworked American: The Unexpected Decline of Leisure, Schor said: 'A typical working day in the medieval period stretched from dawn to dusk work was intermittent - called to a halt for breakfast, lunch, the customary afternoon nap, and dinner.

'Depending on time and place, there were also mid-morning and mid-afternoon refreshment breaks.'

And while their working day was easier, according to Schor, they also had far less of them.

She said: 'The medieval calendar was filled with holidays - official [church] holidays included not only long "vacations" at Christmas, Easter and midsummer but also numerous saints' and rest days.

'In addition to official celebrations, there were often weeks' worth of ales - to mark important life events (bride ales or wake ales) as well as less momentous occasions (scot ale, lamb ale, and hock ale).

'All told, holiday leisure time in medieval England took up probably about one-third of the year.'

As well as these days off for religious and celebratory purposes, evidence has also shown that people used to take further days off as well.

In her essay, the professor revealed that records from 13th century England show many families only worked 150 days a year on their land and in the 14th century, even servants often only worked 175 days a year.

Compare that to the fact that American workers took an average of 16.2 days of vacation in 2015, according to Project: Time Off, and suddenly medieval England doesn't seem so bad after all.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trav ... loyee.html

Dude, that sounds like Mexico today. You need to visit there and have a siesta. You're definitely in the wrong country, man.

Yeah, fucking great, dude. It also sounds like Europe today. They get a shit ton of vacation days that Americans don't get.

Maybe America was founded on some bad fucking ideas to begin with if people are getting an average of only 16 days off while somebody in Europe is getting closer to 30??

[DBTrek]

Context-free history book factoids and their resulting speculative minutiae make for poor travel guides.

[Speaker to Animals]

Sweden gets a mandated 25 vacation days, but their average vacation days are 34 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... by_country

America's entry has zeros, with this qualifier:

There is no statutory minimum paid vacation or paid public holidays. It is left to the employers to offer paid vacation.[166][167] According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, 77% of private employers offer paid vacation to their employees; full-time employees earn on average 10 vacation days after one year of service.[168] Similarly, 77% of private employers give their employees paid time off during public holidays, on average 8 holidays per year.[168][169] Some employers offer no vacation at all.[170] The average number of paid vacation days offered by private employers is 10 days after 1 year of service, 14 days after 5 years, 17 days after 10 years, and 20 days after 20 years.

That's fucking fantastic, guys.

Oh, but what about innovation and economic output??

Often falsely considered a socialist utopia, Sweden has employed innovative regulations over the years to keep its budgets balanced. According to the official government website, the government set a ceiling for government expenditures in 1996 following a difficult recession. A number of other mechanisms were introduced to make sure “high debt doesn’t accumulate and that debt isn’t passed on to future generations.”

Today, Sweden boasts a low level of national debt, low and relatively stable inflation and a healthy banking system. The healthy state of the Swedish economy has given local entrepreneurs plenty of confidence to invest in companies and ideas. What’s more, Sweden actively supports local startups, and some argue that the government’s decision to invest in R&D is one of the driving motors of Sweden’s startup successes.

“Innovation is closely linked to research and development. Sweden is one of Europe’s top three spenders in this area, investing 3.6 per cent of GDP in R&D in 2009. Compare this with the EU-wide target of 3 per cent GDP investment by 2020, and it’s clear that Sweden is ahead of the game. A uniquely high proportion of research funding in Sweden comes from private foundations and other non-profit bodies,” says Donnie SC Lygonis, Senior Advisor at Nordic Innovation House.

“Among OECD countries, only the UK has a higher proportion than Sweden. The research financing from companies in Sweden are more modest, but in sum private, nonprofits and companies financing represent 15 per cent of research funding at Swedish universities — a level comparable to the U.S. and surpassed by only a few EU countries,”

https://techcrunch.com/2016/01/26/swede ... the-north/


Derpa derpa doo. Maybe your shit really does stink after all?

[Fife]

According to Juliet Schor, Professor of Sociology at Boston College, before capitalism was invented in the 19th century people mainly worked very leisurely days. Also "before capitalism was invented:" no books, no electricity, no TV, no movies, no recordings, no medicine, no clothes, not much food

In a paper titled The Overworked American: The Unexpected Decline of Leisure, Schor said: 'A typical working day in the medieval period stretched from dawn to dusk work was intermittent - called to a halt for breakfast, lunch, the customary afternoon nap, and dinner. And then, some hard drinking and cousin fucking before it got dark outside

'Depending on time and place, there were also mid-morning and mid-afternoon refreshment breaks.' Not everyplace had such fancy treats; fresh rats and squirrels weren't always available.

And while their working day was easier, according to Schor, they also had far less of them.

She said: 'The medieval calendar was filled with holidays - official [church] holidays included not only long "vacations" at Christmas, Easter and midsummer but also numerous saints' and rest days.

'In addition to official celebrations, there were often weeks' worth of ales - to mark important life events (bride ales or wake ales) as well as less momentous occasions (scot ale, lamb ale, and hock ale).

'All told, holiday leisure time in medieval England took up probably about one-third of the year.'

As well as these days off for religious and celebratory purposes, evidence has also shown that people used to take further days off as well.

In her essay, the professor revealed that records from 13th century England show many families only worked 150 days a year on their land and in the 14th century, even servants often only worked 175 days a year.

Compare that to the fact that American workers took an average of 16.2 days of vacation in 2015, according to Project: Time Off, and suddenly medieval England doesn't seem so bad after all. Just overlook the abject poverty, continual warfare, constant disease, and abuse from the lords, and it was really great!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trav ... loyee.html

What a load of Marxist garbage, man.

[DBTrek]

He’s going full anti-American socialist. Guess he’s one of those dudes that gets in a relationship and immediately ditches his entire personality and ethos to adopt a new one more compatible with his significant other.

Otherwise I can’t explain the 180 he’s pulling from being an alt-righter to being an America hating “we were better off treated as livestock in medieval times”, Sweden-worshipping, socialist.

WTF?

[Speaker to Animals]

According to Juliet Schor, Professor of Sociology at Boston College, before capitalism was invented in the 19th century people mainly worked very leisurely days. Also "before capitalism was invented:" no books, no electricity, no TV, no movies, no recordings, no medicine, no clothes, not much food

In a paper titled The Overworked American: The Unexpected Decline of Leisure, Schor said: 'A typical working day in the medieval period stretched from dawn to dusk work was intermittent - called to a halt for breakfast, lunch, the customary afternoon nap, and dinner. And then, some hard drinking and cousin fucking before it got dark outside

'Depending on time and place, there were also mid-morning and mid-afternoon refreshment breaks.' Not everyplace had such fancy treats; fresh rats and squirrels weren't always available.

And while their working day was easier, according to Schor, they also had far less of them.

She said: 'The medieval calendar was filled with holidays - official [church] holidays included not only long "vacations" at Christmas, Easter and midsummer but also numerous saints' and rest days.

'In addition to official celebrations, there were often weeks' worth of ales - to mark important life events (bride ales or wake ales) as well as less momentous occasions (scot ale, lamb ale, and hock ale).

'All told, holiday leisure time in medieval England took up probably about one-third of the year.'

As well as these days off for religious and celebratory purposes, evidence has also shown that people used to take further days off as well.

In her essay, the professor revealed that records from 13th century England show many families only worked 150 days a year on their land and in the 14th century, even servants often only worked 175 days a year.

Compare that to the fact that American workers took an average of 16.2 days of vacation in 2015, according to Project: Time Off, and suddenly medieval England doesn't seem so bad after all. Just overlook the abject poverty, continual warfare, constant disease, and abuse from the lords, and it was really great!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trav ... loyee.html

What a load of Marxist garbage, man.

Fallacy. Moving goal posts. Straw man.

Original contention: America was founded on some toxic shit that doomed us from the start and colonial America was hardly a better quality of life for most participants than medieval England.

[Montegriffo]

Fake history.

What? Didn't you know that the Hundred Years' War was fucking awesome, dude? Nonstop drinking, eating, fucking; a real party for all involved. The bosses just wanted to be sure that the common folk were treated nicely and had famous hot chicks like Joan of Arc to party with, and then burn at the stake.

And lots of baths.

Oh shit the hundred years war was fucking great if you were English. Loads of opportunity for rape and pillage.
Not so great for the French, granted but for adventurous Englishmen it was a marvelous time to be alive.

[Speaker to Animals]

Fake history.

What? Didn't you know that the Hundred Years' War was fucking awesome, dude? Nonstop drinking, eating, fucking; a real party for all involved. The bosses just wanted to be sure that the common folk were treated nicely and had famous hot chicks like Joan of Arc to party with, and then burn at the stake.

And lots of baths.

Oh shit the hundred years war was fucking great if you were English. Loads of opportunity for rape and pillage.
Not so great for the French, granted but for adventurous Englishmen it was a marvelous time to be alive.

No way you'd be a better shot than me. I bet I would kill at least a dozen more Genoese crossbowman than you.

[Speaker to Animals]

He’s going full anti-American socialist. Guess he’s one of those dudes that gets in a relationship and immediately ditches his entire personality and ethos to adopt a new one more compatible with his significant other.

Otherwise I can’t explain the 180 he’s pulling from being an alt-righter to being an America hating “we were better off treated as livestock in medieval times”, Sweden-worshipping, socialist.

WTF?

More straw man fallacy. No sources. No facts. Just ridiculousness and accusations of "socialism". LOL

[DBTrek]

I used to be an alt-right, Euro bashing, white ethno-stater. Then I met a girl. Now I finally see how being mere chattel in shit-drenched medieval Europe is preferable to being a wage slave in modern America. Forget the last five years of shit I talked about Muslims rape gangs in Sweden, it’s actually a socialist utopia compared to shithole America!

Behold, the power of getting laid regularly.


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