Civil War Doomsday Clock

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by C-Mag » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:23 pm

GloryofGreece wrote:
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Diversity = strength...hahaha
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09- ... er-carlson
Broadly Multi-Cultural Societies Fail.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by C-Mag » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:25 pm

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The Classicist: The Divided States Of America


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The Left has diverged radically from Traditional American Culture...……. That is the source of the divide.

We've commented many, many times that Trump's policies are the same or even to the Left of Bill Clintons. That is a good grounding point of how Radical today's Left really is.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:06 am

C-Mag wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:23 pm
GloryofGreece wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:29 pm
Diversity = strength...hahaha
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09- ... er-carlson
Broadly Multi-Cultural Societies Fail.
I think a better way of putting is that multiculturalism itself is merely a symptom of failure. The state creates this mess to extend and maintain power when it otherwise would be altered or abolished.

They import foreigners because this creates social chaos and crime that can only be mitigated by increasing state power. But they are doing this increasingly because they are losing grip of power.

As capitalism nears the point of being unworkable as we currently conceive of it, governments have no idea how to deal with that (really none of us do right now). Further, governments cannot possibly deal with this well because they are financially beholden to the primary recipients of the massive surplus generated by capitalism. At the same time, their voter base, being increasingly held back by the economic stagnation, demand insane socialist policies. So you get this mixed system of socialism and capitalist globalism which cannot possibly sustain itself.

So to keep it going they import millions of useless foreigners to serve as voter stock on welfare, while allowing the subsequent crimes and victimization to justify ever more police powers. They use those police powers not to reign in the foreigners, but to suppress the actual indigenous people they are fucking over.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by The Conservative » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:13 am

C-Mag wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:25 pm
GloryofGreece wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:15 pm
The Classicist: The Divided States Of America


https://www.hoover.org/research/classic ... es-america
The Left has diverged radically from Traditional American Culture...……. That is the source of the divide.

We've commented many, many times that Trump's policies are the same or even to the Left of Bill Clintons. That is a good grounding point of how Radical today's Left really is.
The difference between what Trump and Bill Clinton did was that Clinton believed gov’t was the answer.

Trump is the other side of that coin.

That is the difference between the two, and why people voted for him.

We also know he put money into both sides pockets, it was what made him successful...

But he also understands that gov’t needs to get the hell out of the way to make America successful.

Right now, the issue is Trump is taking away all the Democrats normal talking points, and it driving them nuts.

He is attempting to dismantle the machine that has kept the swamp for both parties alive in its current state. What we are finding out in doing so is that the Democrats can’t survive without it.

We are going to see more pushback before this is all said and done. What and how that form is going to be, we can only speculate, but with the left stating things like...

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in ... ctress-who

We can only assume that violence is the recourse they are willing to take. With the Democrat history, Slavery, Socialism, the KKK, Antifa...

The Democrat Party’s nature, by proof of history has been shown to be geared towards violence when push comes to shove.

Their ideals and ideas are flowers, rainbows and unicorns, but once you force pass the facade, the reality is ugly.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by jediuser598 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:23 am

C-Mag wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:25 pm
GloryofGreece wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:15 pm
The Classicist: The Divided States Of America


https://www.hoover.org/research/classic ... es-america
The Left has diverged radically from Traditional American Culture...……. That is the source of the divide.

We've commented many, many times that Trump's policies are the same or even to the Left of Bill Clintons. That is a good grounding point of how Radical today's Left really is.
When did Clinton say he wanted to ban people from this country on the basis of religion? When did Clinton say he wanted to "take out [the] families" of terrorists? Clinton loved NAFTA, Trump hates it. Did Clinton advocate for doing a hell of a lot worse than water boarding? Those are some pretty key differences my friend.

Want to see how crazy the right is these days? They believe in all of that and more, was talking to a few alt-right that want the government to break up Facebook, and make politics a protected class, and they still want to call themselves small government.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:28 am

Clinton literally wanted to build a wall, dude.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by GloryofGreece » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:33 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:06 am
C-Mag wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:23 pm
GloryofGreece wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:29 pm
Diversity = strength...hahaha
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09- ... er-carlson
Broadly Multi-Cultural Societies Fail.
I think a better way of putting is that multiculturalism itself is merely a symptom of failure. The state creates this mess to extend and maintain power when it otherwise would be altered or abolished.

They import foreigners because this creates social chaos and crime that can only be mitigated by increasing state power. But they are doing this increasingly because they are losing grip of power.

As capitalism nears the point of being unworkable as we currently conceive of it, governments have no idea how to deal with that (really none of us do right now). Further, governments cannot possibly deal with this well because they are financially beholden to the primary recipients of the massive surplus generated by capitalism. At the same time, their voter base, being increasingly held back by the economic stagnation, demand insane socialist policies. So you get this mixed system of socialism and capitalist globalism which cannot possibly sustain itself.

So to keep it going they import millions of useless foreigners to serve as voter stock on welfare, while allowing the subsequent crimes and victimization to justify ever more police powers. They use those police powers not to reign in the foreigners, but to suppress the actual indigenous people they are fucking over.
Assuming the jist of what your saying is true, what do you think the ultimate motivation and end goal really is of the "elites"? I mean do they really want 320 million people on gibs and basically mucking about? Doesn't seem sustainable or prudent order/stability wise. I know people aren't rational but still whats the plan here in their eyes?

Also, it seems to me Pat Buchanan got it overwhelming right a long long time ago. And he was paraded out on MSNBC and other "news" networks as some kind of Right wing extremest all throughout the late 1990s-2000s. Its a bit ironic and poet when you think about it now. How is borders and culture fanatical and ridiculous? How is having a unified culture nuts? VDH doesn't say what Buchanan does at least not all the way but he's close enough overall. For a real life example of leftism or progressivism negatively effecting local policies look no further than the school districts. You have to show that you are improving specific racial and economic designated groups to improve their tests scores in order to validate your teaching ability. Bizzare really. So because people that are non white and/or poor score lower that's the instructor and school's fault. GTFO.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by jediuser598 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:37 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:28 am
Clinton literally wanted to build a wall, dude.
Clinton also signed NAFTA. You guys are acting like Trump is a lefty. He's not.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by The Conservative » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:59 am

jediuser598 wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:37 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:28 am
Clinton literally wanted to build a wall, dude.
Clinton also signed NAFTA. You guys are acting like Trump is a lefty. He's not.
And started outsourcing. Both he said wouldn’t hurt the US. We know how that turned out.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:04 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:33 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:06 am
C-Mag wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:23 pm


Broadly Multi-Cultural Societies Fail.
I think a better way of putting is that multiculturalism itself is merely a symptom of failure. The state creates this mess to extend and maintain power when it otherwise would be altered or abolished.

They import foreigners because this creates social chaos and crime that can only be mitigated by increasing state power. But they are doing this increasingly because they are losing grip of power.

As capitalism nears the point of being unworkable as we currently conceive of it, governments have no idea how to deal with that (really none of us do right now). Further, governments cannot possibly deal with this well because they are financially beholden to the primary recipients of the massive surplus generated by capitalism. At the same time, their voter base, being increasingly held back by the economic stagnation, demand insane socialist policies. So you get this mixed system of socialism and capitalist globalism which cannot possibly sustain itself.

So to keep it going they import millions of useless foreigners to serve as voter stock on welfare, while allowing the subsequent crimes and victimization to justify ever more police powers. They use those police powers not to reign in the foreigners, but to suppress the actual indigenous people they are fucking over.
Assuming the jist of what your saying is true, what do you think the ultimate motivation and end goal really is of the "elites"? I mean do they really want 320 million people on gibs and basically mucking about? Doesn't seem sustainable or prudent order/stability wise. I know people aren't rational but still whats the plan here in their eyes?

Also, it seems to me Pat Buchanan got it overwhelming right a long long time ago. And he was paraded out on MSNBC and other "news" networks as some kind of Right wing extremest all throughout the late 1990s-2000s. Its a bit ironic and poet when you think about it now. How is borders and culture fanatical and ridiculous? How is having a unified culture nuts? VDH doesn't say what Buchanan does at least not all the way but he's close enough overall. For a real life example of leftism or progressivism negatively effecting local policies look no further than the school districts. You have to show that you are improving specific racial and economic designated groups to improve their tests scores in order to validate your teaching ability. Bizzare really. So because people that are non white and/or poor score lower that's the instructor and school's fault. GTFO.
The sad truth is that I doubt these people know what to do. They lack much freedom of action, which is why this deevolution towards barbarism and anarchy is so predictable. It is not that they are stupid, but that they have no idea what do (none of us really do) and their short-term gain strategy leads them down blind alleys when the situation becomes risky. The correct solution is not likely favorable to anybody in the short-term.

Buchanan was basically Alt-right before that was a thing. Alt-Right are just Buchananites who are edgy and have a hate problem.