How are things in Yemen?

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Re: How are things in Yemen?

Post by Fife » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:02 am

Why does Randy hate American working families?

From 2016, pick up Wolfie's critique of taking a stand for peace at 0:51:



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Re: How are things in Yemen?

Post by C-Mag » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:36 am

Fife wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:02 am
Why does Randy hate American working families?

From 2016, pick up Wolfie's critique of taking a stand for peace at 0:51:



CNN is the water-carrier for the MIC, same as Faux News, make no mistake.
That's quite a position by wolfie. You know what would be really good for business, simultaneous war with Russia, China and Lichtenstein.

Rand Paul is working to pull back from a conflict and get Congress involved in the decision to go to war, which is a great thing. I read several articles over the year about the struggle in the Whitehouse for Trump to deal with the MIC and pull back from these wars as he stated in his campaign. Trump held them off for a long time, demanding new plans from the Pentagon, etc. Eventually the MIC basically won that fight.


The POTUS and Rand Paul have worked very closely over this period. My first instinct is Rand has the support of the POTUS in this.
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Re: How are things in Yemen?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:40 am

He seems stuck. There is no way he can continue this deep state war with the CIA/NSA/FBI cabal without military intelligence backing him.

Military intelligence just wants the civilian agencies to die in a fire so that they can take over those roles.

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Re: How are things in Yemen?

Post by C-Mag » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:50 am

I agree.
What Trump needs to change the game is outside pressure for him to do something...……….. enter Rand Paul.
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Re: How are things in Yemen?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:22 am

You oppose bombing peasants for freedom? Why do you hate America bro?
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: How are things in Yemen?

Post by C-Mag » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:23 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:40 am
He seems stuck. There is no way he can continue this deep state war with the CIA/NSA/FBI cabal without military intelligence backing him.

Military intelligence just wants the civilian agencies to die in a fire so that they can take over those roles.
I've been watching and reading a lot of shit for the last half dozen years on these intel agencies. IMHNSO, there was a huge schism between the agencies and it started with Benghazi, and hit peak hatred when Gen Flynn sat in front of Congress and told the truth about the Obama Administration arming Jihadis that would become ISIS.

The Obama Admin, the Clinton State Department and the McCain led Gang of 8 all sided with the CIA/FBI cabal. Everyone in the IC joined in, except the Department of Military Intelligence. Obama started to decapitate the military with his purges after this, over 340(+/-) Field and Flag Grade Officers were run out of the military. The Petreaus hit was political, I don't care for the guy, but they suddenly turned on him. I also believe the fight between the two still goes on, but the tables turned a lot with Admiral Rogers.


Now with McCain gone, and Congress actively taking down members of the Coup D'etat things are getting cleaned up a little at the FBI and DOJ............... but there's a long way to go. The CIA and State Department have, to this point, escaped the type of attention and justice they need. Those two agencies are poison to our foreign policy and we will never be able to move into a 21st C model for Foreign Policy until the power of those agencies are busted up and put back in check.
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Re: How are things in Yemen?

Post by C-Mag » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:29 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:22 am
You oppose bombing peasants for freedom? Why do you hate America bro?
Oh, don't get me wrong. I fully support WWII style Dresden, Tokyo and Polesti style bombing campaigns, but not this tepid, covert bullshit. Let's get it out in the open. It's Fucking WAR. Stop trying to play White Knight and get the Fucking Job done.

As far as Yemen, we have no real interest in Yemen, Trump got cucked by the House of Saud on this. Still for Fortress America. We can keep Brigade size elements strategically stationed around the globe at key air and port facilities, but we should bring the rest of the troops home, remobilize them to build the Fucking Wall, issue an M-4 to the head of every household and the County Sherriff will be in charge of monthly drills on the town green.
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Re: How are things in Yemen?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:36 am

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:29 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:22 am
You oppose bombing peasants for freedom? Why do you hate America bro?
Oh, don't get me wrong. I fully support WWII style Dresden, Tokyo and Polesti style bombing campaigns, but not this tepid, covert bullshit. Let's get it out in the open. It's Fucking WAR. Stop trying to play White Knight and get the Fucking Job done.

As far as Yemen, we have no real interest in Yemen, Trump got cucked by the House of Saud on this. Still for Fortress America. We can keep Brigade size elements strategically stationed around the globe at key air and port facilities, but we should bring the rest of the troops home, remobilize them to build the Fucking Wall, issue an M-4 to the head of every household and the County Sherriff will be in charge of monthly drills on the town green.
I'd vote for you.

And then the MIC would pull you into a room and 'explain' why we need to maintain military dominance across the globe, and I'd be disappointed.
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Re: How are things in Yemen?

Post by C-Mag » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:50 am

One guy at the top is not going to fix it.
Trump can control the seas and storms like Neptune, but he'll need Congress on board to reform the system. It's taken 75 years to get here with the MIC, and it will take time to fix shit. The American people will need to start asking serious questions. Hell, Blame Trump if you like. Start to question WTF we are really doing. I know that wasn't possible under BHO because you'd get the Scarlet R on you if you questioned the anointed one, but Trump is fair game.

Come to think of it, there is one thing Trump could do to fix it, initiate a Draft for all 17-21 year olds in the country. Damn, that is a great idea. If we want to fix this, we need to push for a Draft.
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Re: How are things in Yemen?

Post by ssu » Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:31 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:29 am
As far as Yemen, we have no real interest in Yemen, Trump got cucked by the House of Saud on this.
The Saudis had to have their Vietnam. All the videos of destroyed Abrams tanks in Yemen just show it isn't about the equipment, but the actual fighting capabilities of those manning the equipment.

Trump got cucked when he put idiot-Jared to handle Middle East, the Arabs played that totally clueless sucker for all the money. Heck, we nearly saw Saudi-Arabia and UAE going at war with their GCC "ally" Qatar. Of course, Qatar has been quite hyper active in it's foreign policy and has irritated the Saudis. But anyway, the so-called allies of the US are totally in dissarray.