Lack of Empathy for your fellow countrymen is not good, we Dr Youth in here and he'd probably name the mental disorder.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:37 pmDisagree.
The left has gone bonkers. There is no comparison to be made at all.
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To be clear, you would rise up in an unconstitutional Civil War and start shooting other Americans, following a Constitutional process of impeachment.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:37 pmDisagree.
The left has gone bonkers. There is no comparison to be made at all.
Furthermore, the left has taken their obsession of "equality of outcomes over equality before the law" into the arena of democracy. That myopic view of outcomes over fairness results in them right now trying to subvert American democracy. They are doing it with illegal special councils, conspiring with cooked reports to mislead courts, and spying on their opposition like a fucking banana republic does. Then they go out of their way to try to silence the voices of the rest of us, as if that will somehow keep the normies from voting against them. This shit is off the fucking hook right now.
When a significant number of Americans are attacking democracy itself (and they absolutely are), we have big problems. If they don't want to abide by the outcome of the election, then we are in a weird state of affairs where a civil war is necessary, but nobody wants to do it. That makes shit much more dangerous. We needed to push back against them hard from the beginning. Most of the people don't fucking get it. They have no idea what they are doing.
If you don't like the outcome of the election, then work on your election game. Appeal to all the working class Americans you made no bones about hating until they elected Donald Trump. Otherwise, you have to fight. There's no sitting around playing games forever. The Deep State coup is going to fizzle. Even if you managed to impeach Trump in a sham trial in Congress, WE will fucking fight you in a civil war. I literally swore an oath before God to protect and defend the Constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic -- that means YOU right now, lefties, trying to overthrow a democratically elected government.
This shit isn't a game. It's fucking stupid to carry on like this.
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SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:50 pmTo be clear, you would rise up in an unconstitutional Civil War and start shooting other Americans, following a Constitutional process of impeachment.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:37 pmDisagree.
The left has gone bonkers. There is no comparison to be made at all.
Furthermore, the left has taken their obsession of "equality of outcomes over equality before the law" into the arena of democracy. That myopic view of outcomes over fairness results in them right now trying to subvert American democracy. They are doing it with illegal special councils, conspiring with cooked reports to mislead courts, and spying on their opposition like a fucking banana republic does. Then they go out of their way to try to silence the voices of the rest of us, as if that will somehow keep the normies from voting against them. This shit is off the fucking hook right now.
When a significant number of Americans are attacking democracy itself (and they absolutely are), we have big problems. If they don't want to abide by the outcome of the election, then we are in a weird state of affairs where a civil war is necessary, but nobody wants to do it. That makes shit much more dangerous. We needed to push back against them hard from the beginning. Most of the people don't fucking get it. They have no idea what they are doing.
If you don't like the outcome of the election, then work on your election game. Appeal to all the working class Americans you made no bones about hating until they elected Donald Trump. Otherwise, you have to fight. There's no sitting around playing games forever. The Deep State coup is going to fizzle. Even if you managed to impeach Trump in a sham trial in Congress, WE will fucking fight you in a civil war. I literally swore an oath before God to protect and defend the Constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic -- that means YOU right now, lefties, trying to overthrow a democratically elected government.
This shit isn't a game. It's fucking stupid to carry on like this.
To be clear: if they managed to overthrow the elected government of the United States, I am duty-bound to fight them.
This #Resist bullshit is not a game. That is a direct threat to fuck up the peace and overthrow the elected government.
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If lefties don't like the outcome of the 2016 election, then they need to work on their 2020 election game to win then.
This shit they are trying to do now is literally civil war precursors.
Think about it. If they managed to win a huge number of seats in Congress and proceeded to impeach Trump based on some bullshit they made up, what exactly do you think the rest of us are going to do? If Congress actually removed a president based on made-up bullshit, the democracy is dead. It's over at that point.
Do any of you process that yet?
This shit they are trying to do now is literally civil war precursors.
Think about it. If they managed to win a huge number of seats in Congress and proceeded to impeach Trump based on some bullshit they made up, what exactly do you think the rest of us are going to do? If Congress actually removed a president based on made-up bullshit, the democracy is dead. It's over at that point.
Do any of you process that yet?
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Option #2: Convince 3/4 of state legislatures to vote for a Convention and their corresponding governors to sign the bills. That ends the federal government forthwith and we can have a soft break-up. Let blue states do their thing and red states do their own thing without having to fuck with each other's business.
That's my best suggestion.
That's my best suggestion.
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Did democracy die when Clinton was impeached?Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:03 pmIf lefties don't like the outcome of the 2016 election, then they need to work on their 2020 election game to win then.
This shit they are trying to do now is literally civil war precursors.
Think about it. If they managed to win a huge number of seats in Congress and proceeded to impeach Trump based on some bullshit they made up, what exactly do you think the rest of us are going to do? If Congress actually removed a president based on made-up bullshit, the democracy is dead. It's over at that point.
Do any of you process that yet?
Impeachment is not an “overthrow”. If you don’t like it, then vote for Republicans I guess.
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Clinton was impeached for a fucking crime, dude. The entire democratic party is running on a "vote for us and we will impeach Trump" platform. There's no fucking crime to impeach him for!SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:11 pmDid democracy die when Clinton was impeached?Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:03 pmIf lefties don't like the outcome of the 2016 election, then they need to work on their 2020 election game to win then.
This shit they are trying to do now is literally civil war precursors.
Think about it. If they managed to win a huge number of seats in Congress and proceeded to impeach Trump based on some bullshit they made up, what exactly do you think the rest of us are going to do? If Congress actually removed a president based on made-up bullshit, the democracy is dead. It's over at that point.
Do any of you process that yet?
Impeachment is not an “overthrow”. If you don’t like it, then vote for Republicans I guess.
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Let's just wargame this a bit so maybe you can see how fucking bad this is..
Assume we don't defend the Constitution and allow the democratic party to overthrow the elected government of the United States. What happens when we do it to the democrats? Once you do that thing, if we don't fight, there will be no end. It's literally the death of the republic. Nobody is going to let the opposition victor actually govern. We will just impeach them and do exactly what the democrats are doing now.
You have to have a valid reason to impeach a president, and if you just create a fucking kangeroo court like they are doing with this Mueller investigation, really bad shit is going to happen.
Assume we don't defend the Constitution and allow the democratic party to overthrow the elected government of the United States. What happens when we do it to the democrats? Once you do that thing, if we don't fight, there will be no end. It's literally the death of the republic. Nobody is going to let the opposition victor actually govern. We will just impeach them and do exactly what the democrats are doing now.
You have to have a valid reason to impeach a president, and if you just create a fucking kangeroo court like they are doing with this Mueller investigation, really bad shit is going to happen.
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NOTE:
The Crimminal Mastermind and Organizer of the Russian Collusion Popadopulas got Community Service for lying to the FBI. Very serious investigation there.
The Crimminal Mastermind and Organizer of the Russian Collusion Popadopulas got Community Service for lying to the FBI. Very serious investigation there.
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The entire government is a kangaroo court at this point. Blaming democrats for the entire thing is about the dumbest possible viewpoint here.