“Entrepreneurship Porn”

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Re: “Entrepreneurship Porn”

Post by C-Mag » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:08 am

DBTrek wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:58 am
Wow, that was some insightful stuff. Thanks for posting that, Martin. At first glance, it seems to accurately reflect what I see in the world, though I called it lose/winner demographic instead of master/slave.
Agreed. That is good.

Reminds of what Dan Pena said about Political Correctness when discussing Trump back in early 2016
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Post by Martin Hash » Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:31 am

I want to point out how difficult is was for MilSpecs to deny Dem tactics in this thread. For years their strategy was to ridicule claims that Dems were socialists, or that there was a war against men. She did it for years. Now that’s impossible, though she tried before caving at the end.
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Post by heydaralon » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:36 pm

I just dropped in and saw this thread, and the resentiment term and winner/loser mentality is discussed in Pankaj Mishra's Age of Anger. Probably the best book I've read in the last 2 years. This term goes well beyond individuals and societies, and has come to encompass the entire globe. The book discusses how this worldview came to be, and why it spread.

There is a great breakdown of Rousseau vs Voltaire. Eerily, the same battles these guys fought are being waged today.
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Post by Fife » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:23 pm

"Eerily?"

Remind me not to sneak up on you.

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Re: “Entrepreneurship Porn”

Post by Martin Hash » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:46 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:36 pm
I just dropped in and saw this thread, and the resentiment term and winner/loser mentality is discussed in Pankaj Mishra's Age of Anger. Probably the best book I've read in the last 2 years. This term goes well beyond individuals and societies, and has come to encompass the entire globe. The book discusses how this worldview came to be, and why it spread.

There is a great breakdown of Rousseau vs Voltaire. Eerily, the same battles these guys fought are being waged today.
How does it compare to "Slave Morality"? Interestingly, DB (and me, and others I assume), have recognized that people's motivations can only be explained at the basest level; there is little actual consideration. In fact, Scott Adams refers to the "science" of predeterminism, that your mind made a decision before there was time for rational thought. (He actually goes so far as to deny there is Free Will.)
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Post by heydaralon » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:19 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:46 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:36 pm
I just dropped in and saw this thread, and the resentiment term and winner/loser mentality is discussed in Pankaj Mishra's Age of Anger. Probably the best book I've read in the last 2 years. This term goes well beyond individuals and societies, and has come to encompass the entire globe. The book discusses how this worldview came to be, and why it spread.

There is a great breakdown of Rousseau vs Voltaire. Eerily, the same battles these guys fought are being waged today.
How does it compare to "Slave Morality"? Interestingly, DB (and me, and others I assume), have recognized that people's motivations can only be explained at the basest level; there is little actual consideration. In fact, Scott Adams refers to the "science" of predeterminism, that your mind made a decision before there was time for rational thought. (He actually goes so far as to deny there is Free Will.)
It is that exact idea. Hating something and discrediting it, but simultaneously envying it and not so subtly copying it. You see this in Third World Nationalism, Islamic Terrorism, Social Justic etc. The last 2 centuries are full of resentiment.

As far as Free Will, I have never met anyone who does not get angry and insulting when it comes up so idk. Usually the argument turns into a socratic and semantic mess as well. No one defines their terms to the satisfaction of the other side. That isn't really a worthwhile debate topic imo. Best let some sleeping dogs lie.
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Post by GloryofGreece » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:20 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:36 pm
I just dropped in and saw this thread, and the resentiment term and winner/loser mentality is discussed in Pankaj Mishra's Age of Anger. Probably the best book I've read in the last 2 years. This term goes well beyond individuals and societies, and has come to encompass the entire globe. The book discusses how this worldview came to be, and why it spread.

There is a great breakdown of Rousseau vs Voltaire. Eerily, the same battles these guys fought are being waged today.
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Re: “Entrepreneurship Porn”

Post by Fife » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:11 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:19 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:46 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:36 pm
I just dropped in and saw this thread, and the resentiment term and winner/loser mentality is discussed in Pankaj Mishra's Age of Anger. Probably the best book I've read in the last 2 years. This term goes well beyond individuals and societies, and has come to encompass the entire globe. The book discusses how this worldview came to be, and why it spread.

There is a great breakdown of Rousseau vs Voltaire. Eerily, the same battles these guys fought are being waged today.
How does it compare to "Slave Morality"? Interestingly, DB (and me, and others I assume), have recognized that people's motivations can only be explained at the basest level; there is little actual consideration. In fact, Scott Adams refers to the "science" of predeterminism, that your mind made a decision before there was time for rational thought. (He actually goes so far as to deny there is Free Will.)
It is that exact idea. Hating something and discrediting it, but simultaneously envying it and not so subtly copying it. You see this in Third World Nationalism, Islamic Terrorism, Social Justic etc. The last 2 centuries are full of resentiment.

As far as Free Will, I have never met anyone who does not get angry and insulting when it comes up so idk. Usually the argument turns into a socratic and semantic mess as well. No one defines their terms to the satisfaction of the other side. That isn't really a worthwhile debate topic imo. Best let some sleeping dogs lie.
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Re: “Entrepreneurship Porn”

Post by heydaralon » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:28 pm

Fife wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:11 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:19 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:46 pm

How does it compare to "Slave Morality"? Interestingly, DB (and me, and others I assume), have recognized that people's motivations can only be explained at the basest level; there is little actual consideration. In fact, Scott Adams refers to the "science" of predeterminism, that your mind made a decision before there was time for rational thought. (He actually goes so far as to deny there is Free Will.)
It is that exact idea. Hating something and discrediting it, but simultaneously envying it and not so subtly copying it. You see this in Third World Nationalism, Islamic Terrorism, Social Justic etc. The last 2 centuries are full of resentiment.

As far as Free Will, I have never met anyone who does not get angry and insulting when it comes up so idk. Usually the argument turns into a socratic and semantic mess as well. No one defines their terms to the satisfaction of the other side. That isn't really a worthwhile debate topic imo. Best let some sleeping dogs lie.

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Re: “Entrepreneurship Porn”

Post by HarryK » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:58 pm

What’s so terrible about “free will”? Does it not allow us to walk away from pre-determined and pre-ordained situations and let us walk the path to your own beat and rhythm?

If we allow enough time to think through a philosophy or whatever current problem of the day instead of doing things based upon pure instinct do we not grow intellectually and use that knowledge in the future?

“Free will” is the bogeyman of salespeople of all stripes. The ability to walk away from a finely crafted sales pitch lets them know you’re in control and not them. This can be applied as long as you allow yourself to breathe, think, and then respond.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program. :twisted:
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