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Post by C-Mag » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:33 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:26 pm

If Russia is this huge enemy of the American people, then shouldn't somebody who conspired to sell them a significant percentage of our strategic uranium reserves, for personal gain, be subjected to the highest penalties of the land?
I just have a different focus than you.

The goal needs to be fixing the country, not retribution.

If we focus on retribution we go down a bad road. Maybe executions are a proper punishment, but it can't be the focus.
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Post by The Conservative » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:14 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:15 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:11 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:49 am
When do we arrest them all in the middle of the night with black bag hoods and shackles?
I've been calling for these folks to get the Manafort treatment............. Full tactical raid, house search, take all the electronic devices and files found in the home.

We need to push back with the same level of force.
When the trials come, I think we need to put executions back on the table. Treason is treason. Trying to overthrow the duly-elected government of the United States warrants a gallows. It will send a strong message about this shit in the future. I think we fucked up back in the 1930s by not putting the Business Plot conspirators on trial and having them shot.
Don't think death penalty was ever taken off for treason.
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Post by The Conservative » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:14 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:33 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:26 pm

If Russia is this huge enemy of the American people, then shouldn't somebody who conspired to sell them a significant percentage of our strategic uranium reserves, for personal gain, be subjected to the highest penalties of the land?
I just have a different focus than you.

The goal needs to be fixing the country, not retribution.

If we focus on retribution we go down a bad road. Maybe executions are a proper punishment, but it can't be the focus.
You can't fix this livel of corrup and deviance with a forgiving nature.
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Post by C-Mag » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:30 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:14 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:33 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:26 pm

If Russia is this huge enemy of the American people, then shouldn't somebody who conspired to sell them a significant percentage of our strategic uranium reserves, for personal gain, be subjected to the highest penalties of the land?
I just have a different focus than you.

The goal needs to be fixing the country, not retribution.

If we focus on retribution we go down a bad road. Maybe executions are a proper punishment, but it can't be the focus.
You can't fix this livel of corrup and deviance with a forgiving nature.
Oh, I'm not giving them a pass. Their movement must be destroyed and people need to serve prison time.

I just like the US Revolution Model and the Post Civil War Model. Some go to Maybe a few get hung, some go to prison, and some just get exiled, kicked out of the country.

Doing the French Revolution mass guillotine executions is not how we roll, never has been or we would have done it with all the British Loyalists. I think kicking out of the country, penniless felons, would be one of the best punishments you could give them.
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Post by C-Mag » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:46 pm

Reports coming in on Ohr Testimony

FOX News Catherine Herridge:
-Amid closed door interview w/DoJ official Bruce Ohr, GOP NC Rep Meadows says the FBI knew there were “credibility” issues surrounding the dossier before it was used to secure the first FISA warrant in late October 2016.

-GOP FL Rep Matt Gaetz at Bruce Ohr deposition. Gaetz says there are conflicts w/Ohr’s testimony alongside FBI lawyer Lisa Page & Fusion GPS Glenn Simpson about handling of evidence & timing. Gaetz wants the 3 to testify together to deconflict

-Reps Meadows, Gaetz & Issa say DoJ’s Bruce ohr is being cooperative answering questions at deposition. Meadows says Ohr’s memory was “imperfect” about key events, adding Ohr is not refusing to answer questions.

-Text messages, emails and handwritten notes penned by twice-demoted DOJ official Bruce Ohr have trickled out to reporters over the last few weeks showing the very deep connection Ohr had with Christopher Steele.

-Bruce Ohr was acting as a backchannel for Steele after the FBI terminated him in November of 2016 for breaking protocol by leaking to the media.

-The former Associate Deputy AG was also meeting with co-founder of Fusion GPS Glenn Simpson and was given a memory stick by Simpson. Investigators still haven’t revealed what was on the memory stick.
Glenn Simpson wasn’t Bruce Ohr’s only connection to Fusion GPS, his wife Nellie Ohr also worked for the oppo research firm.

-Congressman Gaetz wants Ohr, Simpson and Lisa Page to all testify together to iron out any conflicts.
Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) said, “There’s also some ambiguity between Ohr and Lisa Page. We will have to go back to the loop to find out which one of them is able to change their story or face perjury
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Post by The Conservative » Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:08 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:30 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:14 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:33 pm

I just have a different focus than you.

The goal needs to be fixing the country, not retribution.

If we focus on retribution we go down a bad road. Maybe executions are a proper punishment, but it can't be the focus.
You can't fix this livel of corrup and deviance with a forgiving nature.
Oh, I'm not giving them a pass. Their movement must be destroyed and people need to serve prison time.

I just like the US Revolution Model and the Post Civil War Model. Some go to Maybe a few get hung, some go to prison, and some just get exiled, kicked out of the country.

Doing the French Revolution mass guillotine executions is not how we roll, never has been or we would have done it with all the British Loyalists. I think kicking out of the country, penniless felons, would be one of the best punishments you could give them.
We also didn't tolerate people like Antifa either, but yet here we are. The same political parties that wanted slavery to exist is backing Antifa and those that wanted to stop it is on the other side.

If this is the limitation of US memories, then we are in for one hell of a bumpy ride...
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Post by pineapplemike » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:33 pm

China! China!! China!!!

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Trump sounds positively gleeful
pineapplemike wrote:
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CHINA HACKED HILLARY CLINTON’S PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER
https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/27/chin ... on-server/
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08- ... ily-caller

The Chinese firm obtained Clinton’s emails in real time as she sent and received communications and documents through her personal server, according to the sources, who said the hacking was conducted as part of an intelligence operation.

The Chinese wrote code that was embedded in the server, which was kept in Clinton’s residence in upstate New York. The code generated an instant “courtesy copy” for nearly all of her emails and forwarded them to the Chinese company, according to the sources.

The Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) found that virtually all of Clinton’s emails were sent to a “foreign entity,” Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican, said at a July 12 House Committee on the Judiciary hearing. He did not reveal the entity’s identity, but said it was unrelated to Russia.

Two officials with the ICIG, investigator Frank Rucker and attorney Janette McMillan, met repeatedly with FBI officials to warn them of the Chinese intrusion, according to a former intelligence officer with expertise in cybersecurity issues, who was briefed on the matter. He spoke anonymously, as he was not authorized to publicly address the Chinese’s role with Clinton’s server.

Among those FBI officials was Peter Strzok, who was then the bureau’s top counterintelligence official. Strzok was fired this month following the discovery he sent anti-Trump texts to his mistress and co-worker, Lisa Page. Strzok didn’t act on the information the ICIG provided him, according to Gohmert.

Gohmert mentioned in the Judiciary Committee hearing that ICIG officials told Strzok and three other top FBI officials that they found an “anomaly” on Clinton’s server.

The former intelligence officer TheDCNF spoke with said the ICIG “discovered the anomaly pretty early in 2015.”

“When [the ICIG] did a very deep dive, they found in the actual metadata — the data which is at the header and footer of all the emails — that a copy, a ‘courtesy copy,’ was being sent to a third party and that third party was a known Chinese public company that was involved in collecting intelligence for China,” the former intelligence officer told TheDCNF.

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Post by C-Mag » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:10 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
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China! China!! China!!!

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China killed 20(+/-) CIA agents in China while Hillary was Secretary of State.

Coincidence :think:
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Post by C-Mag » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:18 pm

2017 Article
China systematically crippled CIA operations, killing or imprisoning up to 20 sources
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - China killed or imprisoned 18 to 20 CIA sources from 2010 to 2012, hobbling U.S. spying operations in a massive intelligence breach whose origin has not been identified, the New York Times reported on Saturday.

Investigators remain divided over whether there was a spy within the Central Intelligence Agency who betrayed the sources or whether the Chinese hacked the CIA's covert communications system, the newspaper reported, citing current and former U.S. officials.
https://www.businessinsider.com/r-china ... nyt-2017-5
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:32 pm

Gee. I wonder how they found it all out..