What if we re-designed the electoral to be counted by county instead of state?

[Haumana]

No you’re right. We should definitely keep giving extra voting power to rural hicks, because.... reasons.

Says the guy with.... reasons.

[clubgop]

I'm ok with the state-wide electoral college, the county lines are all fucked anyway, the way it is now feels like a happy medium, and I'm cool with giving the states more power than surrendering the entire country to the will of a popular mob vote.

That's the point.

It's also what we have now. Derpistan.

[clubgop]

surrendering the entire country to the will of a popular mob vote.

Flounder wants LA and Chicago to determine the outcome going forward. Imagine that.

No you’re right. We should definitely keep giving extra voting power to rural hicks, because.... reasons.

You definitely hate them because...reasons.

[Speaker to Animals]

What if I told you the problem is the federal government itself, not whatever farce they use to "vote" on representatives?

[clubgop]

Democrats would lose a popular election right now.

Dont buy that crap. They might but they might not. Approval doesn't necessarily mean voting for.

[Haumana]

Democrats would lose a popular election right now.

Dont buy that crap. They might but they might not. Approval doesn't necessarily mean voting for.

Agree. The #walkaway movement isn't a wildfire yet.

[Speaker to Animals]

Democrats would lose a popular election right now.

Dont buy that crap. They might but they might not. Approval doesn't necessarily mean voting for.

It's just a numbers game.

Every major democratic stronghold in this country (really, about six to eight urban areas) features a significant minority of residents who would vote republican, but usually don't bother to show up.

I don't know what the figures are now, but I remember in Chicago it was somewhere north of ten percent at one point (just in the city limits). There never was any point to them bothering with voting. They can't change local or national elections. If there is a governor change coming up with a reasonable chance of keeping a republican in office, they might show up. Other than that, they are powerless.

Go to a popular vote, and those giant blue towers you see on demographic election maps aren't really quite as impressive.


The inverse does not exist. There are no large numbers of democrat voters out in flyover country. They inhabit the small cities like the one near where I live, but those people tend to vote because they all converge on dense locations and have some impact on local elections.


Basically, a popular election would have little to no impact on democratic party turnout in national elections, but it would have a positive impact on republican turn out.

The question is how much of a positive impact would it have on republican turn out. Well, if you look at the 2016 election, I think when you remove the illegal votes, you will see that in an electoral college election the nation is fairly split down the middle. If you could see just 6-10% of the urban population show up to vote republican, I really see no chance in Hell for the dems to win the presidency short of total fraud, like giving the vote to non-citizens and so forth.

[The Conservative]

I'm ok with the state-wide electoral college, the county lines are all fucked anyway, the way it is now feels like a happy medium, and I'm cool with giving the states more power than surrendering the entire country to the will of a popular mob vote.

That's the point.

It's also what we have now. Derpistan.

No, what we have is a broken system. I was pointing out that giving the states more power is what I am getting at.

[clubgop]

That's the point.

It's also what we have now. Derpistan.

No, what we have is a broken system. I was pointing out that giving the states more power is what I am getting at.

How does this do that anymore than what the current system does? You have your head shoved up your ass. Show me numbers, maps, a solid proposal, something all these stupid questions you asked I shouldn't have to answer like how many counties does such and such have. A county has nothing read nothing to do with the federal government, and is not synonymous with congressional district. So who ever said the, 3 dollar oh donts I sound teh smart "gerrymander" in relation to counties is especially retarded.

[doc_loliday]

An argument can be made that entire convention was illegitimate. They were only authorized to amend the Articles of Confederation.

The Living Natural Man kind of has a point there.

100% true.