The internet takeover thread

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Re: The internet takeover thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:03 am

They censored a congressional candidate yesterday for defending himself against accusations of being a Russian agent.

They shut down Gavin McInnis and all accounts for Proud Boys.

They shut down videos right now from various people who discuss the Alex Jones censorship in a critical way.

They most surely are not backing down.

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Re: The internet takeover thread

Post by clubgop » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:29 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:03 am
They censored a congressional candidate yesterday for defending himself against accusations of being a Russian agent.

They shut down Gavin McInnis and all accounts for Proud Boys.

They shut down videos right now from various people who discuss the Alex Jones censorship in a critical way.

They most surely are not backing down.
Yes they are. These companies all wanted net neutrality they knew what would happen. The congressional candidate is a former candidate, he lost the primary. Dont be like dirty dick.

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Re: The internet takeover thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:08 am

clubgop wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:29 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:03 am
They censored a congressional candidate yesterday for defending himself against accusations of being a Russian agent.

They shut down Gavin McInnis and all accounts for Proud Boys.

They shut down videos right now from various people who discuss the Alex Jones censorship in a critical way.

They most surely are not backing down.
Yes they are. These companies all wanted net neutrality they knew what would happen. The congressional candidate is a former candidate, he lost the primary. Dont be like dirty dick.
That's really not accurate. SOME corporations were supportive of ONLY net neutrality when it came to packet data, and that was because they did not want other corporations to discriminate against the packet data coming to and from their servers for profit.

LOTS of corporations lobbied for abolishing net neutrality, and they are the very ones who have been doing things like stealing the domain name from Daily Stormer, purging entries from DNS servers, colluding to lock people out of DDOS prevention services, etc.

It is precisely because we do not have net neutrality that we cannot really establish any viable alternatives to Facebook and YouTube. If GAB ever really gets a large userbase, you better believe they are getting throttled and possibly even their domain stolen from them by the very same people that bribed their way out of net neutrality regs. As it is GAB cannot even put an app on either app store. They already had to remove a user early on from threats of having their domain stolen as happened to Daily Stormer.

I simply think that a further regulation ought to come into place when a social network becomes by virtue of network externality a monopoly and that corporation uses those monopolistic powers -- no differently than any other monopoly, really. Facebook and Youtube in particular have proven they are just such monopolies and they have no fear whatsoever in using those monopolistic powers towards financial and political fuckery.


As far as the libs are concerned, we had them on what really was our side and guys like you fucked us. We are not getting them back now that they tasted the power. Good luck with that.

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Re: The internet takeover thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:23 am

One of the reasons they wanted Alex Jones banned was that he stated the crusades were a defensive measure to keep the Muslims from invading Europe. Which is a historical fact.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/ ... ars-purge/

They want to drive people off the Internet who even speak the truth about history rather than the mythological narrative. There is literally a subfield of medieval studies that only focuses on researching the origins of the myths like the one about the crusades being the opposite of what they were, or the myth of the medieval inquisition being something other than appeals court you could go to in order to avoid being killed.

I guess historians are next on the chopping block.

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Re: The internet takeover thread

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:31 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:23 am
One of the reasons they wanted Alex Jones banned was that he stated the crusades were a defensive measure to keep the Muslims from invading Europe. Which is a historical fact.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/ ... ars-purge/

They want to drive people off the Internet who even speak the truth about history rather than the mythological narrative. There is literally a subfield of medieval studies that only focuses on researching the origins of the myths like the one about the crusades being the opposite of what they were, or the myth of the medieval inquisition being something other than appeals court you could go to in order to avoid being killed.

I guess historians are next on the chopping block.
:lol: Muh crusades wuz defense!!!
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Re: The internet takeover thread

Post by Fife » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:36 am

^ This is a big part of why you don't really want a U.S. Dept. of the Internet, StA.

The state is, literally, the lowest common denominator. Conformity and vapid consumerism is where it converges; and quickly.

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Re: The internet takeover thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:12 am

Fife wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:36 am
^ This is a big part of why you don't really want a U.S. Dept. of the Internet, StA.

The state is, literally, the lowest common denominator. Conformity and vapid consumerism is where it converges; and quickly.
Dude, asking for net neutrality is NOT asking for a "department of the Internet".

We didn't have a department of the Internet before and it worked just fine. Nothing was falling apart.

As far as an additional measure to deal with social media monopolies discriminating against people on their monopolistic networks, that can be dealt with in courts just like every other monopoly. We don't need a new bureaucracy to deal with these issues.

Reimplement net neutrality so that packet data cannot be discriminated against. Take these large corporations to court in anti-trust cases to reign in these abuses in social media. That's all I am asking for.

At least be honest and consider what I actually said.

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Re: The internet takeover thread

Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:45 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:31 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:23 am
One of the reasons they wanted Alex Jones banned was that he stated the crusades were a defensive measure to keep the Muslims from invading Europe. Which is a historical fact.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/ ... ars-purge/

They want to drive people off the Internet who even speak the truth about history rather than the mythological narrative. There is literally a subfield of medieval studies that only focuses on researching the origins of the myths like the one about the crusades being the opposite of what they were, or the myth of the medieval inquisition being something other than appeals court you could go to in order to avoid being killed.

I guess historians are next on the chopping block.
:lol: Muh crusades wuz defense!!!
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Re: The internet takeover thread

Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:42 pm

Taibbi: Beware the Slippery Slope of Facebook Censorship

“Today’s disclosure is further evidence that the Kremlin continues to exploit platforms like Facebook to sow division and spread disinformation… I also expect Facebook, along with other platform companies, will continue to identify Russian troll activity and to work with Congress…”

This was in a story in which Facebook stated that it did not know the source of all the pages. They might be Russian, or they might just be Warner’s idea of “sowing division.” Are we comfortable with that range of possibilities?

Many of the banned pages look like parodies of some paranoid bureaucrat’s idea of dangerous speech.

A page called “Black Elevation” shows a picture of Huey Newton and offers readers a job. “Aztlan Warriors” contains a meme celebrating the likes of Geronimo and Zapata, giving thanks for their service in the “the 500 year war against colonialism.”

And a banned “Mindful Being” page shared this, which seems culled from Jack Handey’s Deep Thoughts bit:

“We must unlearn what we have learned because a conditioned mind cannot comprehend the infinite.”

Facebook also wiped out a “No Unite The Right 2” page, appearing to advertise a counter-rally on the upcoming anniversary of the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Facebook was “helped” in its efforts to wipe out these dangerous memes by the Atlantic Council, on whose board you’ll find confidence-inspiring names like Henry Kissinger, former CIA chief Michael Hayden, former acting CIA head Michael Morell and former Bush-era Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff. (The latter is the guy who used to bring you the insane color-coded terror threat level system.)

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... es-705766/
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Re: The internet takeover thread

Post by GloryofGreece » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:07 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:42 pm
Taibbi: Beware the Slippery Slope of Facebook Censorship

“Today’s disclosure is further evidence that the Kremlin continues to exploit platforms like Facebook to sow division and spread disinformation… I also expect Facebook, along with other platform companies, will continue to identify Russian troll activity and to work with Congress…”

This was in a story in which Facebook stated that it did not know the source of all the pages. They might be Russian, or they might just be Warner’s idea of “sowing division.” Are we comfortable with that range of possibilities?

Many of the banned pages look like parodies of some paranoid bureaucrat’s idea of dangerous speech.

A page called “Black Elevation” shows a picture of Huey Newton and offers readers a job. “Aztlan Warriors” contains a meme celebrating the likes of Geronimo and Zapata, giving thanks for their service in the “the 500 year war against colonialism.”

And a banned “Mindful Being” page shared this, which seems culled from Jack Handey’s Deep Thoughts bit:

“We must unlearn what we have learned because a conditioned mind cannot comprehend the infinite.”

Facebook also wiped out a “No Unite The Right 2” page, appearing to advertise a counter-rally on the upcoming anniversary of the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Facebook was “helped” in its efforts to wipe out these dangerous memes by the Atlantic Council, on whose board you’ll find confidence-inspiring names like Henry Kissinger, former CIA chief Michael Hayden, former acting CIA head Michael Morell and former Bush-era Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff. (The latter is the guy who used to bring you the insane color-coded terror threat level system.)

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... es-705766/
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