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Zlaxer
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by Zlaxer » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:44 am
C-Mag wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:36 am
This is a primary duty and responsibility of the Government
"the Government" is more than just POTUS
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Ph64
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by Ph64 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:56 am
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:44 am
C-Mag wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:36 am
This is a primary duty and responsibility of the Government
"the Government" is more than just POTUS
Sotomayor wrote that based on the evidence in the case “a reasonable observer would conclude that the Proclamation was motivated by anti-Muslim animus.” She said her colleagues in the majority arrived at the opposite result by “ignoring the facts, misconstruing our legal precedent and turning a blind eye to the pain and suffering the Proclamation inflicts upon countless families and individuals, many of whom are United States citizens.”
She likened the case to the discredited Korematsu V. U.S. decision that upheld the detention of Japanese-Americans during World War II. Roberts responded in his opinion that “Korematsu has nothing to do with this case” and “was gravely wrong the day it was decided.”
Totally different things - Korematsu was about detention of American citizens, which was wrong but happened... I doubt there were many Japanese immigrants coming into the US after Pearl Harbor.
Trump wasn't proposing locking up US residents from those countries, he just wanted to stop/restrict immigration from them. There's no comparison to Korematsu, it's a power presidents have all had. His statements before the election are irrelevant, his "perceived bias" is irrelevant, what is in the text of the actual presidential order is the only thing that is relevant/enforcable.
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Zlaxer
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by Zlaxer » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:07 am
Ph64 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:56 am
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:44 am
C-Mag wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:36 am
This is a primary duty and responsibility of the Government
"the Government" is more than just POTUS
Sotomayor wrote that based on the evidence in the case “a reasonable observer would conclude that the Proclamation was motivated by anti-Muslim animus.” She said her colleagues in the majority arrived at the opposite result by “ignoring the facts, misconstruing our legal precedent and turning a blind eye to the pain and suffering the Proclamation inflicts upon countless families and individuals, many of whom are United States citizens.”
She likened the case to the discredited Korematsu V. U.S. decision that upheld the detention of Japanese-Americans during World War II. Roberts responded in his opinion that “Korematsu has nothing to do with this case” and “was gravely wrong the day it was decided.”
Totally different things - Korematsu was about detention of American citizens, which was wrong but happened... I doubt there were many Japanese immigrants coming into the US after Pearl Harbor.
Trump wasn't proposing locking up US residents from those countries, he just wanted to stop/restrict immigration from them. There's no comparison to Korematsu, it's a power presidents have all had. His statements before the election are irrelevant, his "perceived bias" is irrelevant, what is in the text of the actual presidential order is the only thing that is relevant/enforcable.
Who are you to question the logic of a
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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:22 am
Which is it though... immigration, or travel? Because you and the article appear to be conflating the two.
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by Speaker to Animals » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:25 am
The President has always had the authority to block travel/immigration from any nation he chooses. You guys have been so delusional and hysterical, you ignore basic concepts of American government. We had immigration quotas in this country for almost two centuries for fuck sake.
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by C-Mag » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:03 pm
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:44 am
C-Mag wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:36 am
This is a primary duty and responsibility of the Government
"the Government" is more than just POTUS
Correct.
Being the Sr Executive of the Government it's his job to secure the borders
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by Fife » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:44 pm
Arc Light wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:24 am
Harley-Davidson is now on Donnie's shit list.
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A Harley-Davidson should never be built in another country-never! Their employees and customers are already very angry at them. If they move, watch, it will be the beginning of the end - they surrendered, they quit! The Aura will be gone and they will be taxed like never before!
Every American has a fundamental right to a $60,000 domestic hog. Get em Donnie!
Salute the Aura!
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by C-Mag » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:45 pm
My '63 Harley is now part of the Resistance
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by C-Mag » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:56 pm
Libs Declare War, call for bombings
https://splinternews.com/this-is-just-t ... 1827099100
Time to upgrade your security poster
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