Worst Thing About Open Boarders Is Brain Drain From Shithole Countries

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Re: Worst Thing About Open Boarders Is Brain Drain From Shithole Countries

Post by C-Mag » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:57 pm

doc_loliday wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:53 pm
The Romans had open borders, a welfare state, and universal basic income. It was in fact, the secret to the longevity of the empire.
You spelled boarders wrong.
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Re: Worst Thing About Open Boarders Is Brain Drain From Shithole Countries

Post by Ph64 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:36 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:51 am
I'm not shit posting. If someone is smart and hard working, let's offer them citizenship.
Excellent. We might, of course, want to consider how we evaluate "smart" and whether what they are "hard working" in is any benefit. We might benefit from importing some doctors and engineers, while importing a PhD in "Latino lesbian non-binary interpretive dance" maybe not so much? MS13 members might work hard, just not at something we really need...

I can come up with a few criteria to evaluate for...

- apply for work visa/green card in country = SMART
- studying/applying for citizenship in country you want to stay in - SMART
- working in country legally, taxed and contributing to services used (roads, utilities, healthcare, etc) - SMART/HARD WORKING

- enter country illegally = NOT SMART
- break other laws while in country illegally - NOT SMART
- living in country illegally for 10+ years and never learning local language = NOT SMART
- spending years in country relying on "free" benefits you don't contribute taxes to - NOT SMART/NOT HARD WORKING

I'm sure I could think of others, but you get the point.

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Re: Worst Thing About Open Boarders Is Brain Drain From Shithole Countries

Post by jediuser598 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:10 pm

Ph64 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:36 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:51 am
I'm not shit posting. If someone is smart and hard working, let's offer them citizenship.
Excellent. We might, of course, want to consider how we evaluate "smart" and whether what they are "hard working" in is any benefit. We might benefit from importing some doctors and engineers, while importing a PhD in "Latino lesbian non-binary interpretive dance" maybe not so much? MS13 members might work hard, just not at something we really need...

I can come up with a few criteria to evaluate for...

- apply for work visa/green card in country = SMART
- studying/applying for citizenship in country you want to stay in - SMART
- working in country legally, taxed and contributing to services used (roads, utilities, healthcare, etc) - SMART/HARD WORKING

- enter country illegally = NOT SMART
- break other laws while in country illegally - NOT SMART
- living in country illegally for 10+ years and never learning local language = NOT SMART
- spending years in country relying on "free" benefits you don't contribute taxes to - NOT SMART/NOT HARD WORKING

I'm sure I could think of others, but you get the point.
Fleeing an oppressive government to go and work hard in another country in order to take care of your family? That's about as un-American as you can get.

Our forefathers started this country illegally. I guess that makes them dumb?
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Re: Worst Thing About Open Boarders Is Brain Drain From Shithole Countries

Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:58 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:51 am
I'm not shit posting. If someone is smart and hard working, let's offer them citizenship.
:lol:

We already do. I've got a house full of them.
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Re: Worst Thing About Open Boarders Is Brain Drain From Shithole Countries

Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:07 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:55 pm
Now, we're never going to lure Toyota to America
The fuck?
Toyota has been the #1 Japanese manufacturer in the US for many years, and the only one to really challenge the top US brands such as Chevrolet and Ford. That said, it suffered a further drop during the late 2000s crisis than most of its competitors, seeing its sales fall from over 2m/year in 2006 to only 1.3m/year in 2011. However, it has rebounded strongly since, and in 2015 is on course to beat its 2006 sales record.
http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/toyota/
January 16, 2018
PLANO, Texas (Jan. 16, 2018) – In 2017, Toyota built 1,983,723 vehicles at its North American vehicle assembly plants. Production volume was down slightly from the previous year total of 2,124,608 vehicles.

Toyota’s total vehicle production in North America since 1986 has reached nearly 32 million. Key drivers of this year’s production include low fuel prices, continued stability in the overall economy and strong customer demand for trucks and SUVs.
http://corporatenews.pressroom.toyota.c ... n+2017.htm
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Re: Worst Thing About Open Boarders Is Brain Drain From Shithole Countries

Post by PartyOf5 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:54 am

Okeefenokee wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:07 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:55 pm
Now, we're never going to lure Toyota to America
The fuck?
Toyota has been the #1 Japanese manufacturer in the US for many years, and the only one to really challenge the top US brands such as Chevrolet and Ford. That said, it suffered a further drop during the late 2000s crisis than most of its competitors, seeing its sales fall from over 2m/year in 2006 to only 1.3m/year in 2011. However, it has rebounded strongly since, and in 2015 is on course to beat its 2006 sales record.
http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/toyota/
January 16, 2018
PLANO, Texas (Jan. 16, 2018) – In 2017, Toyota built 1,983,723 vehicles at its North American vehicle assembly plants. Production volume was down slightly from the previous year total of 2,124,608 vehicles.

Toyota’s total vehicle production in North America since 1986 has reached nearly 32 million. Key drivers of this year’s production include low fuel prices, continued stability in the overall economy and strong customer demand for trucks and SUVs.
http://corporatenews.pressroom.toyota.c ... n+2017.htm
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I already pointed this out a page or two ago. Not surprisingly, Jedi ignored it.

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Re: Worst Thing About Open Boarders Is Brain Drain From Shithole Countries

Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:52 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:54 am
Okeefenokee wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:07 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:55 pm
Now, we're never going to lure Toyota to America
The fuck?
Toyota has been the #1 Japanese manufacturer in the US for many years, and the only one to really challenge the top US brands such as Chevrolet and Ford. That said, it suffered a further drop during the late 2000s crisis than most of its competitors, seeing its sales fall from over 2m/year in 2006 to only 1.3m/year in 2011. However, it has rebounded strongly since, and in 2015 is on course to beat its 2006 sales record.
http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/toyota/
January 16, 2018
PLANO, Texas (Jan. 16, 2018) – In 2017, Toyota built 1,983,723 vehicles at its North American vehicle assembly plants. Production volume was down slightly from the previous year total of 2,124,608 vehicles.

Toyota’s total vehicle production in North America since 1986 has reached nearly 32 million. Key drivers of this year’s production include low fuel prices, continued stability in the overall economy and strong customer demand for trucks and SUVs.
http://corporatenews.pressroom.toyota.c ... n+2017.htm
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I already pointed this out a page or two ago. Not surprisingly, Jedi ignored it.
Yeah I saw you beat me to it. The fuck is he talking about?
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Re: Worst Thing About Open Boarders Is Brain Drain From Shithole Countries

Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:58 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:10 pm
Ph64 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:36 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:51 am
I'm not shit posting. If someone is smart and hard working, let's offer them citizenship.
Excellent. We might, of course, want to consider how we evaluate "smart" and whether what they are "hard working" in is any benefit. We might benefit from importing some doctors and engineers, while importing a PhD in "Latino lesbian non-binary interpretive dance" maybe not so much? MS13 members might work hard, just not at something we really need...

I can come up with a few criteria to evaluate for...

- apply for work visa/green card in country = SMART
- studying/applying for citizenship in country you want to stay in - SMART
- working in country legally, taxed and contributing to services used (roads, utilities, healthcare, etc) - SMART/HARD WORKING

- enter country illegally = NOT SMART
- break other laws while in country illegally - NOT SMART
- living in country illegally for 10+ years and never learning local language = NOT SMART
- spending years in country relying on "free" benefits you don't contribute taxes to - NOT SMART/NOT HARD WORKING

I'm sure I could think of others, but you get the point.
Fleeing an oppressive government to go and work hard in another country in order to take care of your family? That's about as un-American as you can get.

Our forefathers started this country illegally. I guess that makes them dumb?
I thought their countries weren't shit holes. But anyway, what you are saying by repeating the progressive talking point about fleeing oppression is that they fail at governing themselves and because of that we must take them in. To govern them in spite of themselves.

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Re: Worst Thing About Open Boarders Is Brain Drain From Shithole Countries

Post by PartyOf5 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:48 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:10 pm
Fleeing an oppressive government to go and work hard in another country in order to take care of your family? That's about as un-American as you can get.

Our forefathers started this country illegally. I guess that makes them dumb?
What happened to the indigenous people when our forefathers came to what is now the US? They almost got completely exterminated by the immigrants.

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Re: Worst Thing About Open Boarders Is Brain Drain From Shithole Countries

Post by jediuser598 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:23 pm

PartyOf5 wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:48 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:10 pm
Fleeing an oppressive government to go and work hard in another country in order to take care of your family? That's about as un-American as you can get.

Our forefathers started this country illegally. I guess that makes them dumb?
What happened to the indigenous people when our forefathers came to what is now the US? They almost got completely exterminated by the immigrants.
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One doth not stroke me, nor the other strike.
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