THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:33 pm

I guess you'll have to ask Obama about that.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by MilSpecs » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:36 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:33 pm
I guess you'll have to ask Obama about that.
Obama told the guards not to touch distraught children?
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:37 pm

MilSpecs wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:36 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:33 pm
I guess you'll have to ask Obama about that.
Obama told the guards not to touch distraught children?
2014.

His admin set the policy.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:39 pm

Now that everybody is butthurt over Obama's illegal child immigrant policies, now would be an interesting time to drop documents on what spirit cooking actually meant.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by MilSpecs » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:43 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:37 pm
MilSpecs wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:36 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:33 pm
I guess you'll have to ask Obama about that.
Obama told the guards not to touch distraught children?
2014.

His admin set the policy.
Well he's not in charge now and whoever is giving and following those orders right now needs to be held accountable for their crimes. Child abuse is a crime. There is no "he told me to" when a child is abused. What kind of animal stands there and refuses to pick up a screaming child?
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Post by Penner » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:46 pm

On 7 May 2018, CNN reported that until April 2018, immigration officials used discretion to handle families or unaccompanied minors entering the United States without documentation:
It has long been a misdemeanor federal offense to be caught illegally entering the US, punishable by up to six months in prison, but the administration has not always referred everyone caught for prosecution. Those apprehended were swiftly put into immigration proceedings and, unless they met the threshold to pursue a valid asylum claim, can be quickly deported from the country.

The current DHS plan makes no special arrangements for those who claim asylum when apprehended. While they will be allowed to pursue their claims and could eventually be found to have a legitimate right to live in the US, they could still already have a conviction for illegal entry.
That same article surmised that families “could be” separated, indicating that in the first week of May 2018, the separation of children from families had not yet begun:
The Trump administration has decided to refer every person caught crossing the border illegally for federal prosecution, a policy that could result in the separation of far more parents from their children at the border.

The move would also mean that even if immigrants caught at the border illegally have valid asylum claims, they could still end up with federal criminal convictions on their record regardless of whether a judge eventually finds they have a right to live and stay in the US.

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen officially enacted the policy on [7 May 2018], according to a Department of Homeland Security official speaking on condition of anonymity. It corresponds with a Department of Justice “zero-tolerance policy” for illegal border crossings, under which Attorney General Jeff Sessions has ordered federal prosecutors to pursue criminal charges against all referrals for illegally crossing the border, as possible.
In summary:
A cluster of rumors about the controversial separation of families at the border held that the policy came before the Trump administration, either stemming from a 1997 “law” or purported policies of previous administrations. Those claims were false. No federal law required or suggested the family separation policy announced by Attorney General Sessions in several sets of remarks during April and May 2018.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-l ... ssed-1997/
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Penner » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:47 pm

MilSpecs wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:43 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:37 pm
MilSpecs wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:36 pm


Obama told the guards not to touch distraught children?
2014.

His admin set the policy.
Well he's not in charge now and whoever is giving and following those orders right now needs to be held accountable for their crimes. Child abuse is a crime. There is no "he told me to" when a child is abused. What kind of animal stands there and refuses to pick up a screaming child?
Obama never separated children from their parents. That is just StA trying to mislead everyone in thinking that Obama did this also but he never did it. Obama DID detain people and he also had a deal with children coming in here without parents but the children who came into the US WITH their parents were never separated.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:49 pm

Just build the Fucking Wall and it will reduce this problem to nil.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:53 pm

MilSpecs wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:54 pm
As repulsive as this entire mess is, where the hell is child protective services in the states where the children are being held?
Foster care is awful for kids, abuse is off the charts in the Foster Care system. Turning kids over to the government protection is not, protection.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by MilSpecs » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:56 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:53 pm
MilSpecs wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:54 pm
As repulsive as this entire mess is, where the hell is child protective services in the states where the children are being held?
Foster care is awful for kids, abuse is off the charts in the Foster Care system. Turning kids over to the government protection is not, protection.
And yet that's what's happened to them. They're not even being held in a normal orphanage. This is even worse.
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