THE ERA OF TRUMP

[BjornP]

If you're a US president, and you're not in uniform and not also holding a military rank, are you supposed to salute even your own troops? It's a long time ago now, and I may remember things wrong (plus, I was a conscript... not all that motivated to start with), but I am sure we weren't supposed to salute an officer out of uniform, as in wearing civilian clothes. While it's fun and endearing that children salute soldiers and such, generally we were told not to return salutes by well meaning civilians if we were in uniform. The only exception was, of course, the defense minister, prime minister and the Queen (can't remember if all members of the royal house deserve salutes, tho) who were higher in rank.

[Okeefenokee]

If you're a US president, and you're not in uniform and not also holding a military rank, are you supposed to salute even your own troops? It's a long time ago now, and I may remember things wrong, but I am sure we weren't supposed to salute an officer out of uniform, as in wearing civilian clothes. While it's fun and endearing that children salute soldiers and such, generally we were told not to return salutes by well meaning civilians if we were in uniform. The only exception was, of course, the defense minister, prime minister and the Queen (can't remember if all members of the royal house deserve salutes, tho).

Yeah they do. They don't have to but they do to be polite. Their salutes are typically sloppy. Salutes from civilians generally can be disregarded. Just civilian larping.

[C-Mag]

Here's Ike surrendering to the French.

touche

[kybkh]

oh, so it isn't a big deal? ok good to know, it looked bad

This thread would have gone splody if that was Obama saluting a foreign military officer.

Even CNN had to confess that returning a salute is protocol.

Saluting 1st would have been showing subservience.

And when are you going to accept that "the Old Republican Party" is dead. Conservative, white males have given up on trying to constrain the spending required because of women's feelings.

Only a moron believes that our debt matters.

The new American First Party just wants the job done and are fully aware that getting the job done doesn't require following protocol.

[Kath]

Even CNN had to confess that returning a salute is protocol.

Presidents aren't really supposed to salute anyone. The first president to salute his troops was Reagan. I had no idea our president's went around saluting foreign military. It's creepy to me.

[BjornP]

Yeah they do. They don't have to but they do to be polite. Their salutes are typically sloppy. Salutes from civilians generally can be disregarded. Just civilian larping.

Right. Googling around, I'm seeing that he actually tried shaking the general's hand at first:

When meeting No Kwang Chol, minister of the People's Armed Forces and a top North Korean military leader, Trump initially tried to shake his hand. No pulled his hand back and then saluted the president. Trump then responded with his own salute, before the two men shook hands as Kim smiles in the background.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... cccc053c48

That makes it seem like pretty small fry. Even WaPo, when talking with their experts, have to admit that this is more like wearing the wrong clothes at a formal event. It may not be a good optic, but the thing about pictures saying more than a thousand words, is that one should remember that interpreting what's actually happening on a picture sometimes requires at least some words by people who are able to interpret what's happening a picture.

[Okeefenokee]

Even CNN had to confess that returning a salute is protocol.

Presidents aren't really supposed to salute anyone. The first president to salute his troops was Reagan. I had no idea our president's went around saluting foreign military. It's creepy to me.

You literally have no idea what you are talking about and are clear as day regurgitating something you just read.

[Speaker to Animals]

[Montegriffo]

[Okeefenokee]

You see how gas lighting works?