THE ERA OF TRUMP

[TheReal_ND]

PUTLER DID NOTHING WRONG

[Smitty-48]

Sure he did, he started a war in Ukraine, but then stopped short of driving all the way to the Dnieper when the way was wide open, what good is Crimea, if you don't have the warm water shipyards at Mykolaiv?

If he was really Putler, he would have gone all the way, no half measures for Mr. Wolf, conflating Putin with Hitler, is an insult to Hitler.

If you're going to take back the Rhineland, just fuckin' take it, all or nothing, go big or go home.

[kybkh]

Sure he did, he started a war in Ukraine, but then stopped short of driving all the way to the Dnieper when the way was wide open, what good is Crimea, if you don't have the warm water shipyards at Mykolaiv?

If he was really Putler, he would have gone all the way, no half measures for Mr. Wolf, conflating Putin with Hitler, is an insult to Hitler.

If you're going to take back the Rhineland, just fuckin' take it, all or nothing, go big or go home.

Putin showed restraint in Ukraine and Georgia. Either he's shrewd and just nibbling, scared of provoking international scorn or just beating the dogs back from his den.

Bet if Putin had to do it over again he'd go past Mariupol. He overestimated BO if anything.

[Smitty-48]

Sure he did, he started a war in Ukraine, but then stopped short of driving all the way to the Dnieper when the way was wide open, what good is Crimea, if you don't have the warm water shipyards at Mykolaiv?

If he was really Putler, he would have gone all the way, no half measures for Mr. Wolf, conflating Putin with Hitler, is an insult to Hitler.

If you're going to take back the Rhineland, just fuckin' take it, all or nothing, go big or go home.

Putin showed restraint in Ukraine and Georgia.

Bet if Putin had to do it over again he'd go past Mariupol. He overestimated BO if anything.

It wasn't restraint, he's too timid, he nibbles around the margins, that's the worst of both worlds, Hitler knew the score, if you're going to go, go all the way, before the enemy has time to react and dig in against you, once you cross the line, you're in the shit then, so make sure you're going for all the marbles, before you make your move.

Don't have the stones for it? Well then just stick to your knitting.

[kybkh]

My guess is the number of heavy artillery pieces in UA has doubled in last year.

Remember at the time though Mariupol was the tipping point. Had to be a tense place to live seeing heavy arty strikes 5 miles from city limits.

[Smitty-48]

They're never going to beat the Ukrainians with the Novorossiyan Spetsnaz Army, but also never going to be able to build crusiers, nor aircraft carriers, nor any other capital ships for the Russian navy, without those shipyards in Mykolaiv, don't even have gas turbines to build frigates, because those are made in Mykolaiv too. Those warm water shipyards in Mykolaiv, is where the Soviets built their navy.

What's the point of having the naval base in Crimea, if you ain't got no ships? You're going to challenge the Americans? With what, a Corvette Navy? Good luck with that.

[kybkh]

Sure he did, he started a war in Ukraine, but then stopped short of driving all the way to the Dnieper when the way was wide open, what good is Crimea, if you don't have the warm water shipyards at Mykolaiv?

If he was really Putler, he would have gone all the way, no half measures for Mr. Wolf, conflating Putin with Hitler, is an insult to Hitler.

If you're going to take back the Rhineland, just fuckin' take it, all or nothing, go big or go home.

Putin showed restraint in Ukraine and Georgia.

Bet if Putin had to do it over again he'd go past Mariupol. He overestimated BO if anything.

It wasn't restraint, he's too timid, he nibbles around the margins, that's the worst of both worlds, Hitler knew the score, if you're going to go, go all the way, before the enemy has time to react and dig in against you, once you cross the line, you're in the shit then, so make sure you're going for all the marbles, before you make your move.

Don't have the stones for it? Well then just stick to your knitting.

Maybe that was an actual win by the CIA then, provoking the Bear before next gen equipment was deployed, limiting Putin's choices.

If 1st Guards was up an rolling a push to Crimea could have happened quick like. For him to do large scale incursion as you suggest they were pulling equipment from Siberia.

[Smitty-48]

Maybe that was an actual win by the CIA then, provoking the Bear before next gen equipment was deployed, limiting Putin's choices.

That's sort of the trap Putin is caught in now, he's in the tween zone, soaking up punishment for going in there, but can't go big now, without inciting serious sanctions, which would harm the rearmament program, but at the same time, critical assets for the rearmament program, are actually in Ukraine, which he didn't secure when he went in there, because he didn't go big when the window was wide open.

Like me and Hitler said, if you're going to take back the Rhineland, just fuckin' take it all, when the window is open, if you hesistate and go about it half assed, you won't get it done, and will in fact eventually be forced out of there, by sheer friction.

You only get one shot at fait accompli, just taking Crimea, was not worth the stretch, it's an albatross now, more trouble than it's worth, eventually, they're gonna have to give it back.

[Okeefenokee]

"I think there is a cloud over Donald Trump's victory. I think there are questions about the legitimacy of his presidency."

[Okeefenokee]