Draining the Swamp

[C-Mag]

Now replace “Gowdy” with “Trump”.

Bah................. if Hillary won we wouldn't know any of this stuff about the FBI Spying.

Just to play Devil's Advocate for a moment...

Is it better for the country to know about shitty behavior, and watch it being ignored, or for us never to have known?

Because the machine is still working flawlessly. It doesn't appear to matter that it's exposed now.

More awareness of your situation is always favorable, unless your a drone and just do what youre told anyway.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Bah................. if Hillary won we wouldn't know any of this stuff about the FBI Spying.

Just to play Devil's Advocate for a moment...

Is it better for the country to know about shitty behavior, and watch it being ignored, or for us never to have known?

Because the machine is still working flawlessly. It doesn't appear to matter that it's exposed now.

More awareness of your situation is always favorable, unless your a drone and just do what youre told anyway.

And if you’re not a drone, but can’t do anything about it?

[nmoore63]

Just to play Devil's Advocate for a moment...

Is it better for the country to know about shitty behavior, and watch it being ignored, or for us never to have known?

Because the machine is still working flawlessly. It doesn't appear to matter that it's exposed now.

More awareness of your situation is always favorable, unless your a drone and just do what youre told anyway.

And if you’re not a drone, but can’t do anything about it?

Then don’t bother posting on a message board about it?

[SuburbanFarmer]

More awareness of your situation is always favorable, unless your a drone and just do what youre told anyway.

And if you’re not a drone, but can’t do anything about it?

Then don’t bother posting on a message board about it?

Well, you just argued yourself off the MHF, but I’m speaking more generally. Or do you feel that you’re able to actually do anything about it?

The illusion of electoral control is the last little sliver of legitimacy that’s holding this thing together. After what happened to Bernie though, and with people becoming (finally) aware of the 2-party lock on control... things are going to be very interesting this time.

[Okeefenokee]

The swamp is unaffected. Destabilizing the nation simply destroys the entire rotten tree. It does not cut out the rot.

But sure, we can ride this thing for another few years, holding our breath.

You are saying two different things at the same time.
Less snark, more clarity.

I’m being sincere. The effect of destabilizing the nation is not a positive against corruption. Corruption is not affected by destabilization, until the entire structure falls apart.

Examples include Russia, China, the entire third world.

If anything was going to be accomplished by pissing people off, then 2008 and the Great Bank Heist would have done it. Yet we’re all still sitting here talking about it. And nothing has changed.

He's mad his bros in the occupy movement turned out to be useless.

[SuburbanFarmer]

You are saying two different things at the same time.
Less snark, more clarity.

I’m being sincere. The effect of destabilizing the nation is not a positive against corruption. Corruption is not affected by destabilization, until the entire structure falls apart.

Examples include Russia, China, the entire third world.

If anything was going to be accomplished by pissing people off, then 2008 and the Great Bank Heist would have done it. Yet we’re all still sitting here talking about it. And nothing has changed.

He's mad his bros in the occupy movement turned out to be useless.

A little sad at that, yeah. But as I said before, it was an effective demonstration of how the system protects itself. They ignored and dismantled it flawlessly.

Nothing will change until it all changes.

[C-Mag]

A little sad at that, yeah. But as I said before, it was an effective demonstration of how the system protects itself. They ignored and dismantled it flawlessly.

Nothing will change until it all changes.

OWS was a misdirected street party ginned up by old hippies, using millenials. No one dismantled it OWS.

[SuburbanFarmer]

A little sad at that, yeah. But as I said before, it was an effective demonstration of how the system protects itself. They ignored and dismantled it flawlessly.

Nothing will change until it all changes.

OWS was a misdirected street party ginned up by old hippies, using millenials. No one dismantled it OWS.

I remember it well. A million people squatting on Wall Street, practically ignored by the MSM, then a wave of stories about
Corruption, and who was backing it, and Russians, Communists - all negative press, like Kaths story about bathrooms.

It was a slick job.

[C-Mag]

I remember coverage being far more easy on OWS than the Tea Party. But that's not the key thing out of that entire period. The key thing was that if you looked at the demands of both the TP and OWS, 60 to 70% of the issues there was agreement on what they wanted done.

The real crime of the press was not reporting that, and maintaining the wedge, the red - blue divide they created. When in fact we agree on more than we disagree upon.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I remember coverage being far more easy on OWS than the Tea Party. But that's not the key thing out of that entire period. The key thing was that if you looked at the demands of both the TP and OWS, 60 to 70% of the issues there was agreement on what they wanted done.

The real crime of the press was not reporting that, and maintaining the wedge, the red - blue divide they created. When in fact we agree on more than we disagree upon.

Definitely. But if people realized that, then actual change would be possible. And news networks would lose their manufactured outrage niches.