Outdoors thread

[Penner]

....or, it's a chimpanzee. They have zoos in PA?

Yes, we do CatFace.

[Speaker to Animals]

The contention is that the federal government usually intervenes, takes the evidence, and pays people off or intimidates/threatens them. It sounds crazy, but those Bigfoot hunter whackos really are getting some crazy federal attention. Not sure what to make of it.

For instance, a few years ago, one of them uploaded video of an absolutely destroyed campsite. Everything was scattered around. The thick trees arou d the camp were snapped in half and their trunks thrown around, in one case a whole tree was thrown right into a tent.

Now.. They could have faked the scene, right? They could have used chains and large trucks to snap those trees, dragged the around, etc. Destroying the camp itself wouldn't be difficult. People would just dismiss it.

But allegedly the people who filmed it were threatened with prison for disturbing a "crime scene". The government got YouTube to take down the video, but it was too late. People just keep uploading copies.

I can't find any actual crime reports but this guy really did have to go to court for this.

There might bve more to it. I don't know. But it's weird that they give so much of a shit about "Bigfoot hunters" walking around national parks.

I only have heard stories about those "men in black" coming to the scene after the fact BUT those are for aliens. I doubt that the Federal government really would care about Bigfoot IF it was real. Also, I would imagine that if they are real, then other things need to be figured out on how they could survive. Like, are these territorial animals and if so, then how many miles does one animal (or group) takes/needs to survive/thrive under, etc...?

Going back to the government IF they do know then they really don't care because we still haven't found ways to weaponize our known animals (I honestly have seen any government program design to create weaponize bears, etc...).

They are not alleging mysterious government goons, but people from BLM, National Parks, and DHS. That "bigfoot researcher" who taped that supposed crime scene really is harassed all the time. He even brought some people out in a small group and BLM surrounded them in SUVs and interrogated everybody, and sent them all home.

These guys don't claim it's some mysterious group, but pretty well-known agencies. I don't know what to make of it, frankly.

Like I said before, I think the ethnographic evidence is sufficient to assume that such a thing as a sasquatch existed in the historic period. The so-called skeptic community is a joke when they claim they need all this evidence to believe it, when the parsimonious explanation for why disparate human cultures from Tibet to the Pacific Northwest to the Appalachian region all described the same creature. If it was some kind of bird species they described ,nobody would bat an eye at the idea that these birds had to have existed in these places during that time. But because it's a description of another hominid species, which also none of these cultures even knew about in the first place, they think you need all this evidence to prove it. I am not saying it's definitive proof of anything, but there exists more reason to believe that these things once existed in the not-so-distant past than to disbelieve it.

The question to my mind is: do they still exist today? That seems like a stretch to me. For one thing, while the national parks are pretty big, they are not *that* big. If there are sasquatch roaming around the Great Smokey Mountains National Park, then they should at the very least be visible from low-flying aircraft and helicopters equipped with FLIR cameras. I have experience with targeting pods in the USAF. Even in the 90s, you'd be able to see an eight foot monster pretty damned clearly with that tech. How fucking hard would it be to charter helicopters with FLIR and run a search pattern over a national forest?

I suspect these things had to have been mostly killed off by homo sapiens directly or, by the time of contact, killed off by small pox and other diseases. People have this idea that we are somehow particularly evil primates that killed off all our cousins who didn't have it coming. I take a different view. I think we are actually pretty good. Most humans today are grasilized (domesticated) and quite peaceful and caring. The other hominid species most likely were quite malicious and dangerous. So our ancestors killed them off to protect themselves. Sasquatch likely existed for a long time because they inhabited more remote regions of Tibet and Siberia, and they then crossed over into North America which was originally uninhabited by other hominids. But that wasn't going to last forever. We came here. We probably killed most of them off. There can't be a large enough breeding population left if there are any left at all.

Maybe in the wilderness regions of Northwest Canada and Alaska it's possible. I can see that as a possible last refuge.

[Penner]

[Speaker to Animals]

I don't think it's gigantopithecus. I think it's a hominid. The descriptions of the face are consistently humanlike. The behavior is belies sapience as well. I don't think they were geniuses or anything, but they likely were fairly intelligent.

[Speaker to Animals]

Sometimes it feels like I am the only one around here who appreciates the urgency of the sasquatch issue and the danger they pose.

We don't even have a sasquatch emoticon, so I am stuck having to use the emoticon for a grey alien, which we all know are not real.

[TheReal_ND]

Throw obama phones into the mix and now we have a theory

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Old School Camp Kit

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A new sport...............Skarping

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Moose I saw last Summer

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The hideout

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