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Kath wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 12:10 pm
GrumpyCatFace wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 12:05 pm
Yeah, I have no explanation for that, other than party manipulation, or gibs. Both are rather depressing options.
We are a short-sighted people. When the price of gas goes up, all of a sudden everyone needs fuel efficient vehicles. Gas goes down, bring on the SUVs. That's nutz.

Corporations put next quarter over next decade; planning wise. It's everywhere in our culture.

There's a saying - The Chinese plan for the next century while Americans plan lunch. There's some truth to that.

I've heard that my whole life. Where's the proof.
The Chinese have never been able to export their power.

Second, if the Chinese are so wise, and play such a long game, why were they unable to see the Japanese invasion coming, or the Totalitarian Despotism, death and destruction of Communism ?
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Ah. The infamous Five Year plan :lol:
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C-Mag wrote: Sat May 26, 2018 9:47 pm
Kath wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 12:10 pm
GrumpyCatFace wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 12:05 pm
Yeah, I have no explanation for that, other than party manipulation, or gibs. Both are rather depressing options.
We are a short-sighted people. When the price of gas goes up, all of a sudden everyone needs fuel efficient vehicles. Gas goes down, bring on the SUVs. That's nutz.

Corporations put next quarter over next decade; planning wise. It's everywhere in our culture.

There's a saying - The Chinese plan for the next century while Americans plan lunch. There's some truth to that.

I've heard that my whole life. Where's the proof.
The Chinese have never been able to export their power.

Second, if the Chinese are so wise, and play such a long game, why were they unable to see the Japanese invasion coming, or the Totalitarian Despotism, death and destruction of Communism ?
They did quietly take control of the worlds most profitable shipping lane.
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C-Mag wrote: Sat May 26, 2018 9:47 pm
Kath wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 12:10 pm
We are a short-sighted people. When the price of gas goes up, all of a sudden everyone needs fuel efficient vehicles. Gas goes down, bring on the SUVs. That's nutz.

Corporations put next quarter over next decade; planning wise. It's everywhere in our culture.

There's a saying - The Chinese plan for the next century while Americans plan lunch. There's some truth to that.

I've heard that my whole life. Where's the proof.
The Chinese have never been able to export their power.

Second, if the Chinese are so wise, and play such a long game, why were they unable to see the Japanese invasion coming, or the Totalitarian Despotism, death and destruction of Communism ?
The myth of China "planning for the next century" usually point to a quote by the 1960's Chinese premier, Zhou Enlai, where upon being asked what he thought of the French Revolution he replied: "It's too early to tell". Of course, that's not quite what happened:

https://mediamythalert.wordpress.com/20 ... -not-1789/
When Chinese premier Zhou Enlai famously said it was “too early” to assess the implications of the French revolution, he was referring to turmoil in France in 1968 and not — as is commonly thought — to the more distant political upheaval of 1789.

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In an interview yesterday, Freeman elaborated on his recollection about Zhou’s comment, the conventional interpretation of which is frequently offered as evidence of China’s sage, patient, and far-sighted ways. Foreign Policy magazine, for example, referred last month to that interpretation, saying the comment was “a cautionary warning of the perils of judgments made in real time.”

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He said Zhou’s remark probably was made over lunch or dinner, during a discussion about revolutions that had succeeded and failed. They included, Freeman said, the Prague Spring of 1968 and the Hungarian uprising of 1956, both of which the Soviet Union crushed.

He said it was clear from the context and content of Zhou’s comment that in saying it was “too early to say” the Chinese leader was speaking about the events in France in May 1968, not the years of upheaval that began in 1789.
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@Bjorn

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They are in fact much more future-planning than most westerners. I think it's cultural but also a symptom of a higher average IQ. If you look at the world, the lower the average IQ of a nation, the less future planning you will see. Or, perhaps a better way of looking at it is that, the higher your nation's average IQ, the farther out your planning horizon extends, and vice versa. So in China or Japan, they are looking out decades if not more. Europe and North America maybe a decade at most, but more likely something like 4-8 years. In the Congo, they don't future plan at all.

Government also plays a role. Democracies tend only to plan for immediate gratification until they burn down. China leaders have no such constraints.
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If we want to take care of the China problem, all we have to do is let Japan off the leash again

I have some hope that not all of their masculine genes were killed off in WWII.
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California wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 10:46 am If we want to take care of the China problem, all we have to do is let Japan off the leash again

I have some hope that not all of their masculine genes were killed off in WWII.

Taking on China in open war would require BOTH the United States and Japan right now. We have fallen pretty far very fast, bro.
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Speaker to Animals wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 11:00 am
California wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 10:46 am If we want to take care of the China problem, all we have to do is let Japan off the leash again

I have some hope that not all of their masculine genes were killed off in WWII.

Taking on China in open war would require BOTH the United States and Japan right now. We have fallen pretty far very fast, bro.
I see nothing convincing that China can export it's power.
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