Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by MilSpecs » Fri May 25, 2018 2:42 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 10:27 am
MilSpecs wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 10:21 am

It’s not just progressives though - conservatives are just as bad at snatch-the-$. It’s a bipartisan game.
Says the urbanite NYer to the guy in Seattle.
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We know our progressive politicians are crooked as a duck’s dick, but I’m not sure we’re qualified to comment on the fraud, waste, and abuse of conservative local governments which generally do not have access to the same level of wealth found in large metropolitan areas.
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The $ amount of extortion is different, but proportional.
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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by DBTrek » Fri May 25, 2018 2:47 pm

Not entirely convinced since one ideology is built upon the government providing for the “disadvantaged” and the other on limited government.

That’s not to say that I don’t think both are wasteful, I do. I simply doubt they are equally/proportionately wasteful. Kinda like Islam and Christianity are both major world religions, but their modern day violence isn’t proportional. Both may commit violence but not nearly in the same proportions.

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by MilSpecs » Fri May 25, 2018 2:56 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 2:47 pm
Not entirely convinced since one ideology is built upon the government providing for the “disadvantaged” and the other on limited government.

That’s not to say that I don’t think both are wasteful, I do. I simply doubt they are equally/proportionately wasteful. Kinda like Islam and Christianity are both major world religions, but their modern day violence isn’t proportional. Both may commit violence but not nearly in the same proportions.
They all eventually become built upon providing jobs and sustaining fiefdoms. Some places more than others. I live in a mostly conservative area, so that's what I see and it's not much better at core than the cities as far as the primary purpose being to provide jobs, even when those jobs are clearly not necessary in a time of fiscal desperation.

I feel for people in Seattle who are barely hanging on to their homes because property taxes are killing them, more than you know.
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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by DBTrek » Fri May 25, 2018 3:11 pm

Mussels test positive for opioids in Seattle's Puget Sound

Scientists at the Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife have found that mussels in Seattle's waters are testing positive for opioids.

The finding suggests "a lot of people" are taking oxycodone in the Puget Sound, researchers say.

Scientists used mussels as a way to test pollution in Seattle's waters and discovered high enough oxycodone levels for the shellfish to test positive.

Mussels do not metabolise opioids, but some fish can become addicted.

Mussels are filter-feeders, which means they filter water for nutrients to nourish themselves. In the process, they end up storing pollutants in their tissues, which makes them a prime indicator species...

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-44256765
You know what will probably help? More needle exchanges and some safe injection sites, all lavishly funded by the taxpayers. That’ll fix everything, just like the progressives have promised. A few more piles of dirty drug needles here and there, dedicated spaces where anyone can shoot up all the smack they want, and streets running to overflowing with raw sewage. But wait ... there’s an added bonus ... strung out fish! Woohoo!
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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by JohnDonne » Fri May 25, 2018 3:12 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 7:00 am
41% of Seattle’s homeless “work in some capacity”, which includes seasonal and temporary work. Only 13% reported having full time work.

Only 20% cite housing affordability as a factor in their homelessness (sure glad Seattle its Council is paralyzing job growth to throw peanuts at 20% of a problem)

Only 25% blames job loss as a factor (aka for 75% it has nothing to do with jobs, for 80% it has nothing to do with affordable housing)

And looky here, over 50% lived in Seattle 5 years or more and “came for the support of family and friends” - aka that deadbeat relative/friend that hung around for years before people were finally like GTFO.

http://q13fox.com/2017/03/03/new-survey ... eld-myths/

So to quickly recap, after squandering $50million on “making it up as we go” homeless solutions, Seattle City Council alienated the areas largest employers with a head tax for another $48million. The money they’ve taken was supposedly going to fund less than 5% of the affordable housing they claimed to need. Which is ironic, since only 20% of the homeless say affordable housing is an issue. In actuality the head tax money will likely be spent as a funding stopgap measure for the Seattle City Council’s overspending.

Progressives, y’all. Our brainy little “problem solvers”. So elite. So smart.
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You should ask for a refund...from God...Because when they opened up your brain there was an I.O.U....From God....That said, "I O U one brain." Lulz.

Or...it's too bad Seattle doesn't have a brain tax...cuz you'd be exempt...

Anyway, here's the full article, because your summary was...inadequate.
SEATTLE — A survey of Seattle’s homeless population surprisingly has found that 41% of the people surveyed are currently working in some capacity and 35% had some college or a college degree, the Seattle Human Services Department said Friday.

In addition, about 20% of respondents listed housing affordability issues as the primary event/condition that led to their homelessness.

The department contracted with Applied Survey Research (ASR) to talk with 1,050 homeless individuals and held multiple focus groups with 80 attendees in 2016. The survey was released Friday.

“Seattle had not completed an assessment of this kind in nearly a decade, and responses from people experiencing homelessness confirmed other information that City has received: that affordable housing availability, substance abuse and mental health issues are key contributors to addressing homelessness. Additionally, the survey shows that homelessness affects Black/African Americans, Latinos/Hispanics, Native Americans and the LGBTQ community disproportionately,” a department news release said.

According to the department, the research served to dispel several commonly-held myths about the City’s homelessness crisis.:

— “Seattle’s homeless population is local, with nearly 70% living in Seattle/King County when they became homeless. Over 50% of people experiencing homelessness have lived in Seattle five years or more. Those not originally from Seattle frequently came for the support of family and friends or for a job opportunity. When people were asked about the primary event that led to their homelessness, 25% said losing their job.
This does not mean for seventy five percent it had "nothing" to do with job loss.

— “The primary cause of an individual’s homelessness is not always clear and often the result of multiple and compounding causes. One quarter (25%) of respondents self-reported job loss as the primary cause of their homelessness. Thirteen percent (13%) reported alcohol or drug use, 11% reported an inability to afford rent increase, and 9% reported a divorce, separation, or breakup as the primary cause of their homelessness.
When respondents are only allowed to pick one "primary factor" that doesn't mean the other factors had nothing to do with their homelessness.

— “Additionally, when asked if they would move into safe and affordable housing if it were offered, 93% of the respondents said “yes.” Interesting This dispels another myth that people who are homeless don’t want to come inside. However, rental assistance (68%) and housing affordability (65%) were the top two answers given by respondents when asked what they needed to obtain housing. It should also be noted that 41% of those living outdoors owned their own home or rented housing immediately preceding their experience of homelessness.

— “Perhaps surprising, 41% of the people surveyed are currently working in some capacity (full-time, part-time, temporarily, or seasonally), and 35% had some college or a college degree.

— “35% reported using hard drugs (meth, heroin, crack); 13% percent of respondents reported drug or alcohol abuse was the primary cause of their homelessness; 45% of survey respondents self-reported they did not use drugs; 29% reported using alcohol.

— “Assistance with mental health issues and accessing healthcare overall were identified as great needs by homeless individuals. Depression (42.2%), Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (30.9%), and Bi-polar Disorder (23.6%) were cited as the top three health conditions affecting those who are homeless.”

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by DBTrek » Fri May 25, 2018 3:25 pm

:lol:

Yeah, JD - just because the factors that the SCC are tackling at incredible cost and economic peril aren’t “primary” factors, doesn’t mean they aren’t factors at all. Respondents only got to pick one primary factor (which is redundant to anyone who knows what “primary” means) - but who cares? Why tackle the primary factors of homelessness when we can waste millions on non-primary factors and then tax businesses into halting expansion?

You certainly made the case for your superior “brains”.

A-herpa-derp-derp.
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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by JohnDonne » Fri May 25, 2018 3:30 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 3:25 pm
:lol:

Yeah, JD - just because the factors that the SCC are tackling at incredible cost and economic peril aren’t “primary” factors, doesn’t mean they aren’t factors at all. Respondents only got to pick one primary factor (which is redundant to anyone who knows what “primary” means) - but who cares? Why tackle the primary factors of homelessness when we can waste millions on non-primary factors and then tax businesses into halting expansion?

You certainly made the case for your superior “brains”.

A-herpa-derp-derp.
You said:
for 80% it has nothing to do with affordable housing
Now you admit that was an unfounded statement?

Cuz the survey said:

“Additionally, when asked if they would move into safe and affordable housing if it were offered, 93% of the respondents said “yes.”


Cool.

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by DBTrek » Fri May 25, 2018 3:35 pm

Indeed.

My grammatical error cost nothing, and your ideological errors are costing the Seattle taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars while increasing a problem they’re supposedly solving.

Brains!

;)

PS: Your quote on how 93% of homeless would accept affordable, safe housing is especially poignant and meaningful. Always eye-opening to learn that a large portion of any population will gladly accept subsidized shit. Who could’ve foreseen? They’d probably accept blowjobs too, you ready to go provide those?
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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by JohnDonne » Fri May 25, 2018 3:49 pm

Would blow jobs get homeless off the street? Cause I would definitely subsidize your mouth if that was the case.

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by DBTrek » Fri May 25, 2018 3:56 pm

JohnDonne wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 3:49 pm
Would blow jobs get homeless off the street? Cause I would definitely subsidize your mouth if that was the case.
What made you suddenly start applying “getting homeless off the streets” as a metric for success? This whole thread you’ve been quite content to champion anything progressives do, even when it demonstrably hurts employment and does not deliver desired results.

I guess you expect considerably more from blowjobs than you do from progressives.
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