JohnDonne wrote: Mon May 14, 2018 2:26 pm
I thought you were the one citing social science, since all your ostensible "facts" about gays seem to be echoed from studies cited on Christian websites. I have already argued that when you use the term "homosexual" you are at best confounding two distinct groups.
But why argue over the vagaries of statistical manipulations?
Even if we, (as per your wish,) throw out the social science evidence which your initial argument appears to rest on, even if we (charitably to your argument) refer to straight identifying men who molest boys as "homosexuals" (despite the fact that pre-pubescent boys are in many ways physiologically closer to adult women than to adult men) there is still zero cause to show that openly gay men molest boys more than straight identifying men.
Of course we can only speculate how many of the catholic priest abusers were openly gay. Or how many of the scout leaders that abused children during the "no gays allowed" era were openly gay. Yet since allowing openly gay scout leaders, there hasn't been a single example of an openly gay scout leader molesting boys. What this suggests is that your fear of the "out" homosexual being a scout leader is misplaced and misguided.
Here's a fun fact: all the men who raped teen boys in the Catholic Church and in the Boy Scouts were homosexuals.
There are probably twice as many women involved in the Boy Scouts, and nary a nationwide scandal of mothers rapping the other boys in her son's Cub Scout den.
I already addressed the first part above. You can go on repeating yourself but that gets old for me.
The part about mothers I’m not even sure what it is supposed to mean.
You did not address jackshit. You wrote a long ass post lamenting the fact that we won't accept your activist research and dismissing the fact that other so-called social scientists show completely different results. But the fact is.. that 40x rate comports to what we know about these crimes.
Granular categorization allows one to see a high resolution picture of the sub-groups that do things like touch children. The reason STA categorizes only down to "homosexual" when talking about the straight-identifying sub-group that molests boys is the same reason a feminist might limit her categorization to "men" when talking about the tiny sub-group of people who rape. That way she can say something to the effect of, "Men are 100,000,000 times more likely to forcibly penetrate someone with a penis than any other group." It's a way to demonize large demographics for the actions of a tiny percentage that may have almost nothing in common with the larger group. For example, what does a Catholic priest have in common with out gays and gay culture? Very little. But I have beaten this dead horse enough.
Stop playing semantic games. You do realize the sexual assault scandals plaguing our institutions were perpetrated by homosexual men against teen boys, right?
Catholic Church scandal: bishops in the 60s allowed homosexuals to become priests. Majority of victims were teen boys. Majority of perpetrators were homosexual men.
Same thing happened with the Boy Scouts.
Not a great idea to hand your sons over to such men. I cannot believe this has to be explained to you. You are really fucking lost, dude. Please do not have children.
JohnDonne wrote: Mon May 14, 2018 6:30 pm
Granular categorization allows one to see a high resolution picture of the sub-groups that do things like touch children. The reason STA categorizes only down to "homosexual" when talking about the straight-identifying sub-group that molests boys is the same reason a feminist might limit her categorization to "men" when talking about the tiny sub-group of people who rape. That way she can say something to the effect of, "Men are 100,000,000 times more likely to forcibly penetrate someone with a penis than any other group." It's a way to demonize large demographics for the actions of a tiny percentage that may have almost nothing in common with the larger group. For example, what does a Catholic priest have in common with out gays and gay culture? Very little. But I have beaten this dead horse enough.
The vast majority of homosexuals practice pederasty. Turns out that sexual deviance is just that.
JohnDonne wrote: Mon May 14, 2018 6:30 pm
Granular categorization allows one to see a high resolution picture of the sub-groups that do things like touch children. The reason STA categorizes only down to "homosexual" when talking about the straight-identifying sub-group that molests boys is the same reason a feminist might limit her categorization to "men" when talking about the tiny sub-group of people who rape. That way she can say something to the effect of, "Men are 100,000,000 times more likely to forcibly penetrate someone with a penis than any other group." It's a way to demonize large demographics for the actions of a tiny percentage that may have almost nothing in common with the larger group. For example, what does a Catholic priest have in common with out gays and gay culture? Very little. But I have beaten this dead horse enough.
