Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

[Kath]

How is it a needle "exchange" program if they don't have to return the old needle? One would think that requiring the "exchange" part would keep the needles from piling up on the streets.

[jediuser598]

King County Needle exchange also offers other services:

Narcan available

https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health ... hange.aspx

In addition to fresh needles you can obtain Narcan to help get yourself back from the brink of death so you can shoot up again.

And you know, keep on living.

[Speaker to Animals]

Why not pay for rehab facilities instead?

[DBTrek]

I understand JDs and Jedi’s strong desire to change the subject from Seattle City Councils billion dollar failure. They’ve spent nearly the entire thread trying to talk about anything and everything else.

Since Jedi wants to trumpet another progressive failure as a victory, let’s take a look at the long term impact of needle exchanges:

Open Drug Use Has Exploded In San Francisco, Pushing The City's Liberal Image To The Limit



...Open drug use has exploded in San Francisco in recent years, enraging residents who complain of having to step over people injecting heroin in train stations and to traverse a seemingly unending series of tent villages on sidewalks and bike paths. The problem has ballooned into a public health crisis, officials say, leaving elected leaders scrambling for solutions as discarded needles pile up in the streets.

The issue has also tested San Francisco's image as a liberal, compassionate urban oasis, and underscores a broader trend in large California cities that have been grappling with rising homelessness and drug use on their streets.

Public drug use in San Francisco was thrust into the spotlight last week when a series of shocking videos uploaded to YouTube showed dozens of drug users, seemingly unaware that they were being filmed, sprawled out in a Bay Area Rapid Transit station and openly injecting drugs as commuters walked past. Others appeared to be unconscious, lying next to a pool of vomit. . .

. . .Complaints related to drug use in San Francisco have skyrocketed as well. Between 2009 and 2017, the number of reports of needles and other medical waste on the streets grew from 290 to 6,363 — an increase of 2,194% — according to the city’s database of non-emergency calls.

Complaints about human waste on the streets have also spiked, from 5,771 in 2009, to 20,960 in 2017, a jump of 363%. Since 2014, the number of reports has doubled. And complaints about encampments of homeless people have risen from 586 in 2009 to 42,208 in 2017 — a surge of almost 7,200%. . . .

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii ... .eizVAjjKQ

And for bonus irony points . . . Those needles on the streets?The city gave them out


Pay for one program to hand out needles. Pay to create another program to clean them up. Emergency services skyrocket as a Hepatitis A outbreak reaches near epidemic levels.Tourism declines. Etc,etc ...

... But Jedi really believes this “solution” is a money saver because his progressive masters gave him a narrow set of factoids, and whatever they hand him, he believes. Clearly the collateral and associated costs of the program are astronomical, and it has turned the city into a disease-ridden pit of human suffering. But hey, that’s what progressivism does best!

[jediuser598]

Hey, I was bringing your topic back to the strangling of the golden goose, Mr. Thought Leader.

Where do you get the billion dollar figure at? I missed that article.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's almost as if our grandparents were right about immoral behavior creating costs all of society has to pay one way or another..

[DBTrek]

Hey, I was bringing your topic back to the strangling of the golden goose, Mr. Thought Leader.

Where do you get the billion dollar figure at? I missed that article.

The billion dollar failure is Seattle City Councils ten year program to expand homelessness in the city. I was simply mentioning it again (as I shall several more times) before launching into what you don’t know about needle exchange programs (because progressives would never tell you).

[jediuser598]

I understand JDs and Jedi’s strong desire to change the subject from Seattle City Councils billion dollar failure. They’ve spent nearly the entire thread trying to talk about anything and everything else.

Since Jedi wants to trumpet another progressive failure as a victory, let’s take a look at the long term impact of needle exchanges:

Open Drug Use Has Exploded In San Francisco, Pushing The City's Liberal Image To The Limit



...Open drug use has exploded in San Francisco in recent years, enraging residents who complain of having to step over people injecting heroin in train stations and to traverse a seemingly unending series of tent villages on sidewalks and bike paths. The problem has ballooned into a public health crisis, officials say, leaving elected leaders scrambling for solutions as discarded needles pile up in the streets.

The issue has also tested San Francisco's image as a liberal, compassionate urban oasis, and underscores a broader trend in large California cities that have been grappling with rising homelessness and drug use on their streets.

Public drug use in San Francisco was thrust into the spotlight last week when a series of shocking videos uploaded to YouTube showed dozens of drug users, seemingly unaware that they were being filmed, sprawled out in a Bay Area Rapid Transit station and openly injecting drugs as commuters walked past. Others appeared to be unconscious, lying next to a pool of vomit. . .

. . .Complaints related to drug use in San Francisco have skyrocketed as well. Between 2009 and 2017, the number of reports of needles and other medical waste on the streets grew from 290 to 6,363 — an increase of 2,194% — according to the city’s database of non-emergency calls.

Complaints about human waste on the streets have also spiked, from 5,771 in 2009, to 20,960 in 2017, a jump of 363%. Since 2014, the number of reports has doubled. And complaints about encampments of homeless people have risen from 586 in 2009 to 42,208 in 2017 — a surge of almost 7,200%. . . .

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii ... .eizVAjjKQ

And for bonus irony points . . . Those needles on the streets?The city gave them out


Pay for one program to hand out needles. Pay to create another program to clean them up. Emergency services skyrocket as a Hepatitis A outbreak reaches near epidemic levels.Tourism declines. Etc,etc ...

... But Jedi really believes this “solution” is a money saver because his progressive masters gave him a narrow set of factoids, and whatever they hand him, he believes. Clearly the collateral and associated costs of the program are astronomical, and it has turned the city into a disease-ridden pit of human suffering. But hey, that’s what progressivism does best!

Man that's a lot of sophistry. It is going to take some time to take that all apart and show how wrong it all is, and how it takes things and draws the wrong conclusions. Shit man, how much free time you think I have? If I spend time taking all of this nonsense apart I better see some returns in the form of "Yeah man, I was wrong." Not "Man I was just paraphrasing you, I didn't really mean what I said."

[jediuser598]

Hey, I was bringing your topic back to the strangling of the golden goose, Mr. Thought Leader.

Where do you get the billion dollar figure at? I missed that article.

The billion dollar failure is Seattle City Councils ten year program to expand homelessness in the city. I was simply mentioning it again (as I shall several more times) before launching into what you don’t know about needle exchange programs (because progressives would never tell you).

But where do you get that figure specifically?

Can you link to it?

[DBTrek]

Hey, I was bringing your topic back to the strangling of the golden goose, Mr. Thought Leader.

Where do you get the billion dollar figure at? I missed that article.

The billion dollar failure is Seattle City Councils ten year program to expand homelessness in the city. I was simply mentioning it again (as I shall several more times) before launching into what you don’t know about needle exchange programs (because progressives would never tell you).

But where do you get that figure specifically?

Can you link to it?

I could. Or you could go back through the thread and use the links already provided. Or you could google “Seattle billion homeless” you lazy twat-copter.
Jesus.

https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/new ... costs.html