The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

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The Military Can Secure the Border and Build the Wall
The United States has 14,000 troops in Afghanistan, 39,000 in Japan, 34,805 in Germany, 23,000 in South Korea, and around 5,200 in Iraq. Our military protects the borders of countless nations.
Except our own.
In 1919, we had 18,500 soldiers on the border. “Twice a day every foot of the border line is patrolled by cavalrymen and infantrymen,” the New York Times noted.
A hundred years later, President Trump’s proposal to use the military to secure the border is controversial even though Marines fighting drug cartels have come under fire from drug smugglers...................

Some commentators have claimed that the Posse Comitatus Act would prevent the use of any military forces other than the National Guard on the border. But securing the border against foreign invaders (as opposed to domestic law enforcement directed against citizens) has always been a military matter.
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Lot cheaper to fly some drones around it, than marching/driving a few thousand troops around, but hey - government gotta spend, amirite?
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Drones? Is that like a magic word to you?
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Speaker to Animals wrote:Drones? Is that like a magic word to you?
In the common parlance, any radio-controlled flying device is now a "drone". I'm just following suit.

You could literally patrol the border with a couple of unarmed Predators, and call the police to handle anyone coming in.
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Drones? Is that like a magic word to you?
In the common parlance, any radio-controlled flying device is now a "drone". I'm just following suit.

You could literally patrol the border with a couple of unarmed Predators, and call the police to handle anyone coming in.

So what happens when the drone detects foreign nationals attempting to illegally cross our border?
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Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Drones? Is that like a magic word to you?
In the common parlance, any radio-controlled flying device is now a "drone". I'm just following suit.

You could literally patrol the border with a couple of unarmed Predators, and call the police to handle anyone coming in.

So what happens when the drone detects foreign nationals attempting to illegally cross our border?
Call over an ICE unit, from whatever town is closest. The Predator would probably spot them 10 miles before they even cross.

As opposed to posting thousands of Army units, which will inevitably lead to a massacre at some point? I dunno - maybe I'm just thinking too much. Not enough feelz for border control.
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Drones? Is that like a magic word to you?
In the common parlance, any radio-controlled flying device is now a "drone". I'm just following suit.

You could literally patrol the border with a couple of unarmed Predators, and call the police to handle anyone coming in.

That puts you in a reactionary chase mode over several thousand miles of border.

Put up walls in strategic locations restrict travel and passage, target forces on avenues of appproach and use drone and e-survellience in combination with these.

Open borders folks don't want walls, because when you restrict travel to concentrated areas there is no way to hide the problem.
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C-Mag wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Drones? Is that like a magic word to you?
In the common parlance, any radio-controlled flying device is now a "drone". I'm just following suit.

You could literally patrol the border with a couple of unarmed Predators, and call the police to handle anyone coming in.

That puts you in a reactionary chase mode over several thousand miles of border.

Put up walls in strategic locations restrict travel and passage, target forces on avenues of appproach and use drone and e-survellience in combination with these.

Open borders folks don't want walls, because when you restrict travel to concentrated areas there is no way to hide the problem.
I don't want walls, because they're expensive and idiotic - just like lining the border with army troops on permanent patrol.

You'd think we'd have figured out by now that army troops don't do police work very well.
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
In the common parlance, any radio-controlled flying device is now a "drone". I'm just following suit.

You could literally patrol the border with a couple of unarmed Predators, and call the police to handle anyone coming in.

So what happens when the drone detects foreign nationals attempting to illegally cross our border?
Call over an ICE unit, from whatever town is closest. The Predator would probably spot them 10 miles before they even cross.

As opposed to posting thousands of Army units, which will inevitably lead to a massacre at some point? I dunno - maybe I'm just thinking too much. Not enough feelz for border control.

There are maybe five thousand or so actual ICE and Border Patrol agents along the Mexican border that are able to intercept and detain invaders. For almost 2,000 miles, and much of that is desert wilderness areas. Give that border an area of about ten miles north along the entire span and you have 20,000 square miles to patrol.

It's actually a job of the Army to defend the border. I think we will be just fine sticking with the Army's actual job.
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C-Mag wrote: Open borders folks don't want walls, because when you restrict travel to concentrated areas there is no way to hide the problem.
Not all of us who oppose a physical monstrosity are excited about increasing illegal immigration. I think smart people can come up with a way to use technology to our advantage here.

A forty foot wall increases 45 foot wall ladder sales. A fifty foot wall creates a need for 55 foot ladders. No matter how high you build a wall, someone will create a way to circumvent it.

If you create concentrated areas of no walls and increase the military presence in the concentrated passing areas, you're just going to send people to more remote blind spots, where there's a wall, and they will dig/tunnel under or find a way over.

There are likely already at least several people/entrepreneurs looking for a solution to getting over and or under each one of the wall prototypes out there to view.
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