Another School Shooting

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Just fyi for the low infiormation public, FMH does not honor the circumstances of your death, it honors the full depth and breadth of your entire career, you could be awarded the MoH and not get FMH, FMH is like a lifetime achievement award so to say.

This is not to say that a cadet cannot have a military burial, flagged draped drop with honor guard of his peers, ain't nothing wrong with dat.

But the Old Guard, Caisson, and Riderless Horse symbolizing the death of a War Chief? I mean, ca'mon, America, get a grip.

The kid got shot in school, he didn't serve in World War Two, tragic does not FMH make, there's millions of guys who served in World War Two who never got FMH.
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In the military ethos, you would frankly dishonor the kid by awarding him merits undeserved.

My great grandfather served from Ypres to Mons in the First World War, never got FMH, and if you told him he was getting it, he would say "what for?"

If some kid dies tragically, sure, you try to do something nice for the family, but you don't engrave his name on the Stanley Cup.
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Smitty-48 wrote: but you don't engrave his name on the Stanley Cup.
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pineapplemike wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote: but you don't engrave his name on the Stanley Cup.
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Fife wrote:Image
Sure they do.

http://www.disarmthepolice.com/our-position.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... e6a95b3b1a
It's a strategy that seems to work surprisingly well for other countries: In Britain, Ireland, Norway, Iceland and New Zealand, officers are unarmed when they are on patrol. Police are only equipped with firearms in special circumstances.
Just saying they do... not saying they should.
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Smitty-48 wrote:Just fyi for the low infiormation public, FMH does not honor the circumstances of your death, it honors the full depth and breadth of your entire career, you could be awarded the MoH and not get FMH, FMH is like a lifetime achievement award so to say.

This is not to say that a cadet cannot have a military burial, flagged draped drop with honor guard of his peers, ain't nothing wrong with dat.

But the Old Guard, Caisson, and Riderless Horse symbolizing the death of a War Chief? I mean, ca'mon, America, get a grip.

The kid got shot in school, he didn't serve in World War Two, tragic does not FMH make, there's millions of guys who served in World War Two who never got FMH.
I don't think they are going all out like that. This could be a mission for the JROTC to learn about that particular part of drill and ceremony. Taps, flag, 21 gun salute, yeah, no problem. This was written by civilians they don't know what they are talking about give them a little of the D&C, it won't be no state function.
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DrYouth wrote:
Fife wrote:Image
Sure they do.

http://www.disarmthepolice.com/our-position.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... e6a95b3b1a
It's a strategy that seems to work surprisingly well for other countries: In Britain, Ireland, Norway, Iceland and New Zealand, officers are unarmed when they are on patrol. Police are only equipped with firearms in special circumstances.
Just saying they do... not saying they should.
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clubgop wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Just fyi for the low infiormation public, FMH does not honor the circumstances of your death, it honors the full depth and breadth of your entire career, you could be awarded the MoH and not get FMH, FMH is like a lifetime achievement award so to say.

This is not to say that a cadet cannot have a military burial, flagged draped drop with honor guard of his peers, ain't nothing wrong with dat.

But the Old Guard, Caisson, and Riderless Horse symbolizing the death of a War Chief? I mean, ca'mon, America, get a grip.

The kid got shot in school, he didn't serve in World War Two, tragic does not FMH make, there's millions of guys who served in World War Two who never got FMH.
I don't think they are going all out like that. This could be a mission for the JROTC to learn about that particular part of drill and ceremony. Taps, flag, 21 gun salute, yeah, no problem. This was written by civilians they don't know what they are talking about give them a little of the D&C, it won't be no state function.
21 gun salute? Dial it back, son, he's not Audie frikkin' Murphy, a flag draped casket and the JROTC honor guard is fine, guy's killed in Iraqistan don't get 21 gun salutes.
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Reality check, he was just a kid, he wasn't really in the military, he's not a war hero, tragic as his death may be, hero inflation in America is already absurd, just dial it back, not everybody rates a 21 gun salute.
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If you start handing these honours out willy nilly, they cease to have any meaning, it's sad that this kid died, but that don't rate military honours in of itself.
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