It's Happening.

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Re: It's Happening.

Post by jediuser598 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:24 pm

It's fuckin weird man. It's literally just about the coffee. I'm headed back to school so I don't really give a shit about advancing (maybe laterally) but besides that, it's just about the coffee. I sometimes make them food too, because I want to practice making food and it feels good to make food for other people, but they're always coming at me like I have ulterior motives. I'm like no, it's literally just about the coffee. :lol:

Coffee is good.
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Post by DBTrek » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:25 pm

Jedi is on his way to being an influencer. Folks better stay on the right side of him if they want to see coffee flowing.
Piss off the coffee provider and you’re going to have problems, son!
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Re: It's Happening.

Post by jediuser598 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:29 pm

DBTrek wrote:Jedi is on his way to being an influencer. Folks better stay on the right side of him if they want to see coffee flowing.
Piss off the coffee provider and you’re going to have problems, son!
:lol:
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Re: It's Happening.

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:30 pm

C-Mag wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:I really wish we could transition to more community-based programs where we provide for one another and ourselves at the same time. The mistake is in expecting daddy government to fix our communities' problems instead of just doing it ourselves.

There is no easy way to undo this either. No easy solutions.

I am less concerned with what the 1% are doing than my concern for how my own community is disintegrating.
Going to give a personal example as to why I think our communities are disintegrating, and we're increasingly becoming isolated.

When I started this new job, the coffee machine in the break room was defunct. Someone had tried cleaning it out with vinegar, but as most of you know, Bunn coffee machines have a reservoir, so they filled it up with vinegar to try and clean it, ran some water through it once, and then it came out as vinegar so they gave up. (they left the vinegar in the reservoir).

I got some vinegar, ran it through, then ran water through it about 10 times, until I could drink the water without it tasting horrible or being green (it was literally green on the first time through). That's fixed. Next problem, we have no coffee.

I ask around, where do we usually get coffee? Do people buy their own or can we store use it? Well Bulk department usually lets us use the stuff customers leave behind. Great! That's like $7 a lb coffee. Sure we don't get to choose the flavors, or much of anything else about it, but that's good coffee. So I go to bulk, and it took a bit of convincing, convincing them that I'm not indeed stealing the coffee that they're giving me that I'm solely just using it for the break room, just to make coffee for people. They eventually agree. That problem solved.

Next problem, we have no cups, no stirrers, no sugar, no creamer.

Find out we can pull the stirrers and cups right off the shelf as long as we log it, good, but sugar and creamer are a tougher issue. Well, if a customer breaks open a bag of store brand sugar or creamer, I can store use it, with sugar that's fine (I now have a cache of sugar, coffee, cups, and stirrers for the break room) but creamer never really breaks. They're in decent containers and even if they did, I don't often know about it because people will just scan it then throw it away. But people need creamer, so when we run out, I just buy it.

So, now I'm known as the guy who makes coffee. Why? Because coffee is good. Because more people should have good things. And that's it.

But then I get blowback sometimes, "Well why's he doing it? Does he want people to like him? What does he want in return?" - the average American.

They have a hard time understanding that sometimes, everything isn't a 0 sum game.

Why are we increasingly isolated and our communities disintegrating? Because most people are only out there for themselves, so much so that they don't understand a simple thing like free coffee, it doesn't compute. That person must want something from them. And that's the current reality we live in.

But no matter how shit my fellow employees are to me, or say my boss has a bad day and takes it out on me, or I have a bad day, people should still have good coffee.
Mmmmmmmmm.............. good job
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Here's what is going on jedi.

Political leadership has creeped out of Washington DC and infected most of our country. Political Leadership is all people know. The do not understand Dynamic Leadership.

Getting the Coffee made is a great example of Dynamic Leadership, it's recognizing a problem or potential improvement and just getting it done. Dynamic Leaderships key feature is a focus on productivity.

Political Leaderships key feature is the control of information and focusing production on advancement. The rest of your peers are looking at this thinking, what does Jedi know that I don't. Why go to all that effort just for coffee. Is Jedi getting promoted over me ?

Good insight. It's a lesson a lot of veterans understand, but not so much the rest of America any longer.

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Re: It's Happening.

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:33 pm

C-Mag wrote:I am bit confused here Hash.

For months you have told me that you will revered and fawned over if you have money, accomplishments don't matter.

But you are also telling me to hate the 1% ?
Dude, I've written about this endlessly. It is a mathematical certainty that if money is not redistributed from the top, an aristocracy will emerge. Period. It WILL happen. So, being a math guy and knowing that, but still wanting most liberty to most people, what to do?

As I've said repeatedly:
1) Must give away your money when you die. You can do it, doesn't need to be government. Your normal heirs get the old exclusion (almost $10 mil!).
2) Progressive taxation but allow investment in new things that employ people to be deducted
3) Make all businesses pass through
4) Anti-monopoly

Now, everybody on this forum thinks that somehow I don't know what I'm talking about, that *famous* people know better than me, and I always respond, "I'm wyser than famous people." If you don't want to believe me, there's nothing I can do to change your mind. That's life, and that's why politics is so fucked up.
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Re: It's Happening.

Post by DBTrek » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:36 pm

Where’s the inevitable aristocracy?

Maybe we should stick to addressing actual problems rather than what self proclaimed geniuses “know” will happen, eh?

If the geniuses are right, we can address their concerns when the issue manifests. If the issue never manifests - look at all the time and energy we saved not fighting the paranoia induced phantoms of geniuses.
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Re: It's Happening.

Post by StCapps » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:40 pm

DBTrek wrote:Where’s the inevitable aristocracy?

Maybe we should stick to addressing actual problems rather than what self proclaimed geniuses “know” will happen, eh?

If the geniuses are right, we can address their concerns when the issue manifests. If the issue never manifests - look at all the time and energy we saved not fighting the paranoia induced phantoms of geniuses.
;)
The aristocracy is inevitable whether there is redistribution of wealth at the top or not. Hash is not solving the problem, he's sticking his fingers in his ears and pretending that it's possible for any human society to not have an aristocracy, and then he somehow fools himself into think redistribution of wealth at the top, is the best method to reduce their influence, when it's actually the worst method to reduce their influence.

His rationale makes no sense.
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Post by DBTrek » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:44 pm

StCapps wrote:The aristocracy is inevitable whether there is redistribution of wealth at the top or not. Hash is not solving the problem, he's sticking his fingers in his ears and pretending that it's possible for any human society to not have an aristocracy, and then he somehow fools himself into think redistribution of wealth at the top, is the best method to reduce their influence, when it's actually the worst method to reduce their influence.

His rationale makes no sense.
Awww shit.
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Re: It's Happening.

Post by jediuser598 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:49 pm

Aristocracy isn't here partly because of this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_o ... ity_Clause
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Re: It's Happening.

Post by StCapps » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:58 pm

jediuser598 wrote:Aristocracy isn't here partly because of this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_o ... ity_Clause
:lol:
America has an aristocracy, always has, stop believing your silly founding myths. That clause does not prevent an aristocracy, not even close.
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