THE ERA OF TRUMP

nmoore63
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The real determining factor of last nights election, like I said about the off elections last month, is the apathy of voters.

The reason certain minority votes mattered at all in Alabama was because 500,000 white voters that normally do, didn't.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... bama,_2008
United States Senate election in Alabama, 2008

Jeff Sessions
1,305,383

Vivian Davis Figures
752,391
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... bama,_2017
United States Senate special election in Alabama, 2017
Doug Jones
671,151

Roy Moore
650,436
It wasn't so much the black vote, as the lack of a white vote. So to speak.


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Don't read too much into the vote, one way or the other.
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New work, led by Angela Lee Duckworth, a psychologist at the University of Pennsylvania, and reported online today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences explores the effect of motivation on how well people perform on IQ tests. While subjects taking such tests are usually instructed to try as hard as they can, previous research has shown that not everyone makes the maximum effort. A number of studies have found that subjects who are promised monetary rewards for doing well on IQ and other cognitive tests score significantly higher.

To further examine the role of motivation on both IQ test scores and the ability of IQ tests to predict life success, Duckworth and her team carried out two studies, both reported in today's paper. First, they conducted a "meta-analysis" that combined the results of 46 previous studies of the effect of monetary incentives on IQ scores, representing a total of more than 2000 test-taking subjects. The financial rewards ranged from less than $1 to $10 or more. The team calculated a statistical parameter called Hedge's g to indicate how big an effect the incentives had on IQ scores; g values of less than 0.2 are considered small, 0.5 are moderate, and 0.7 or higher are large.

Duckworth's team found that the average effect was 0.64 (which is equivalent to nearly 10 points on the IQ scale of 100), and remained higher than 0.5 even when three studies with unusually high g values were thrown out

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2011/04/ ... ly-measure
IQ is strongly tied to an individual’s motivation to score well on an IQ test.
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nmoore63 wrote:The real determining factor of last nights election, like I said about the off elections last month, is the apathy of voters.

The reason certain minority votes mattered at all in Alabama was because 500,000 white voters that normally do, didn't.

Re:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... bama,_2008
United States Senate election in Alabama, 2008

Jeff Sessions
1,305,383

Vivian Davis Figures
752,391
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... bama,_2017
United States Senate special election in Alabama, 2017
Doug Jones
671,151

Roy Moore
650,436
It wasn't so much the black vote, as the lack of a white vote. So to speak.


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Don't read too much into the vote, one way or the other.
You left out the 110% black turn out compared to Obama '12
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DBTrek wrote:
New work, led by Angela Lee Duckworth, a psychologist at the University of Pennsylvania, and reported online today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences explores the effect of motivation on how well people perform on IQ tests. While subjects taking such tests are usually instructed to try as hard as they can, previous research has shown that not everyone makes the maximum effort. A number of studies have found that subjects who are promised monetary rewards for doing well on IQ and other cognitive tests score significantly higher.

To further examine the role of motivation on both IQ test scores and the ability of IQ tests to predict life success, Duckworth and her team carried out two studies, both reported in today's paper. First, they conducted a "meta-analysis" that combined the results of 46 previous studies of the effect of monetary incentives on IQ scores, representing a total of more than 2000 test-taking subjects. The financial rewards ranged from less than $1 to $10 or more. The team calculated a statistical parameter called Hedge's g to indicate how big an effect the incentives had on IQ scores; g values of less than 0.2 are considered small, 0.5 are moderate, and 0.7 or higher are large.

Duckworth's team found that the average effect was 0.64 (which is equivalent to nearly 10 points on the IQ scale of 100), and remained higher than 0.5 even when three studies with unusually high g values were thrown out

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2011/04/ ... ly-measure
IQ is strongly tied to an individual’s motivation to score well on an IQ test.

Okay. So if we promise all the Africans a few bucks depending upon how high they score, they will boost their average IQ from the 60s to the 70s? Not sure if you see the problem with your argument here, but it still amuses me that you thought this would win the day. :whistle:
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nmoore63 wrote:The real determining factor of last nights election, like I said about the off elections last month, is the apathy of voters.

The reason certain minority votes mattered at all in Alabama was because 500,000 white voters that normally do, didn't.

Re:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... bama,_2008
United States Senate election in Alabama, 2008

Jeff Sessions
1,305,383

Vivian Davis Figures
752,391
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... bama,_2017
United States Senate special election in Alabama, 2017
Doug Jones
671,151

Roy Moore
650,436
It wasn't so much the black vote, as the lack of a white vote. So to speak.


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Don't read too much into the vote, one way or the other.

That was the result of a coordinate propaganda campaign by the MSM including slanderous accusations that he is a rapist even after the accuser was exposed as a fraud.
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Speaker to Animals wrote:
doc_loliday wrote:Every black person from Africa I met in college was seriously fucking smart and had nothing but respect and love for our system. Come on over guys.

What do you suppose were the odds that you would encounter any student with an IQ in the 60s enrolled in college?

The average IQ of sub-Saharan Africa really is in the 60s.

You encountered the tiny percentage on the far end of the normal distribution. Taking those people out of Africa is the most devastating resource extraction we could possibly inflict on Africa as well. Average IQ, in part, is what determines your level of economic development. Taking high IQ individuals out of Africa condemns Africa to endless poverty, and flooding America with low-IQ immigrants threatens us with decline and degeneration. We ought to want to maximize our average IQ as a matter of policy, and foreign policy -- if we are being honestly charitable towards our fellow mankind -- would not entail strip mining an entire continent of the very people who could pull the region out of abject poverty.

I'm not taking them out of anywhere. They are choosing to come here. I'm not extracting them. They are making their own decision. I'm not strip mining anything. They are exercising their freedom to live somewhere else. If we are to have an immigration policy, we should have one that benefits our America.
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doc_loliday wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
doc_loliday wrote:Every black person from Africa I met in college was seriously fucking smart and had nothing but respect and love for our system. Come on over guys.

What do you suppose were the odds that you would encounter any student with an IQ in the 60s enrolled in college?

The average IQ of sub-Saharan Africa really is in the 60s.

You encountered the tiny percentage on the far end of the normal distribution. Taking those people out of Africa is the most devastating resource extraction we could possibly inflict on Africa as well. Average IQ, in part, is what determines your level of economic development. Taking high IQ individuals out of Africa condemns Africa to endless poverty, and flooding America with low-IQ immigrants threatens us with decline and degeneration. We ought to want to maximize our average IQ as a matter of policy, and foreign policy -- if we are being honestly charitable towards our fellow mankind -- would not entail strip mining an entire continent of the very people who could pull the region out of abject poverty.

I'm not taking them out of anywhere. They are choosing to come here. I'm not extracting them. They are making their own decision. I'm not strip mining anything. They are exercising their freedom to live somewhere else. If we are to have an immigration policy, we should have one that benefits our America.

Inviting them here really is essentially strip mining the continent of IQ, which is the very thing that they need to get out of the Malthusian trap. It's fucking wrong. It might make you feel good to signal your fealty to this multi-cult, but this is wrong on so many levels.
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TheReal_ND wrote:
nmoore63 wrote:The real determining factor of last nights election, like I said about the off elections last month, is the apathy of voters.

The reason certain minority votes mattered at all in Alabama was because 500,000 white voters that normally do, didn't.

Re:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... bama,_2008
United States Senate election in Alabama, 2008

Jeff Sessions
1,305,383

Vivian Davis Figures
752,391
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... bama,_2017
United States Senate special election in Alabama, 2017
Doug Jones
671,151

Roy Moore
650,436
It wasn't so much the black vote, as the lack of a white vote. So to speak.


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Don't read too much into the vote, one way or the other.
You left out the 110% black turn out compared to Obama '12
That was irrelevant.

That shoal was only made visible by the massive decrease in white turnout.
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We have a policy for those that would like to come here. It is not "strip mining" Africa. It's one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. And if you were as morally outraged as you claim to be, you'd go over there and do something yourself. But you're not and your policy of barring black people has nothing to do with the welfare of Africans.