The Psych Ward

[Montegriffo]

Heh. Well fuck. Praise Kek I guess.

In the Psych ward too

[TheReal_ND]

Lel

[DrYouth]

So National Geographic is advocating child abuse now. Why did they decide to do this in National Geographic a magazine that used to be dedicated to exploring the world. Is the editor (look her up,) attempting to convey the message that child sexuality or gender fluidness is the new frontier? Are liberals, now having liberated everything else pushing to liberate things such as pedophilia next? It only stands to reason that if they feel like liberating a child's sexuality or concept of gender they will next be saying it's ok for them to have sex and that the man that wants to have sex with children is being oppressed by a restrictive society right? To think of that magical sense we all used to get looking through those wonderful pages guilt with the Golden Ratio on the cover. Now sullied by poisonous liberal progressivism. This is not the kind of thing I would want my child exposed to. Taken away a cherished part of my childhood, even my culture and replaced it with vile trash.

I hear you Nuke...

This gender revolution is certainly reckless IMO.
I won't go as far as child abuse... your conflation with pedophilia is not accurate
I have worked with very sincere families who are trying to do their best by their kids in this arena... and they would be horrified by what you suggest.

That being said I fear that this gender revolution is causing more confusion than it is providing security.

The core of the problem is a failure to accept biological gender and a form of hubris that biological gender is irrelevant or problematic.
The hubris that we should alter biology through drugs and surgery does border on a form of abusiveness or sacrilege.
It is a conceit that the ego should dominate over our inherent sexuality...

Now that all being said sexuality is not totally binary... that is the truth that the gender revisionists latched onto...
And as revolutionaries tend to do they have taken this core truth and tried to impose an opposite fiction that somehow gender is completely fluid and not at all binary - which is a much farther stretch than the totally binary stretch.

Destabilizing times... and certainly grist for a counter-revolutionary backlash.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

If they aren't cutting anything off, sewing anything on, or pumping 'em full of hormones, how is this any different than some skinny little brat pretending to be a ninja or a cowboy.

Let them have their fun. If they grow out of it fine, if not, and they wind up an adult that wants to do any of the weird crap mentioned above... not my business.

Although, I will defer to the more learned opinion of Dr. Brain Warlock on this one.

[DrYouth]

If they aren't cutting anything off, sewing anything on, or pumping 'em full of hormones,

Except they are pumping the hormones...
This is happening.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2697020/

•In other countries, however, the opinion prevails that it is appropriate to use LHRH (luteinizing hormone-releasing hormone) analogues, which block gonadotropin secretion and secondarily inhibit the sex steroids, for diagnosis and treatment (23). Using LHRH analogues is held to give the patient time to assess whether GID will persist, and to prevent the irreversible somatic changes corresponding to the sex of birth (particularly voice breaking and beard growth). This is supposed to bring relief and prevent psychiatric comorbidity (24). According to the standards of the Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association (2001), "completely reversible" gonadotropin blockade is to be followed in a second and a third phase by "partially reversible" (estrogen/testosterone therapy) and irreversible surgical interventions (e2). The elevated risk of misdiagnosis if treatment is begun early is considered to be acceptable in view of the putatively better results of treatment for correct indications (e21). In the Netherlands, the minimal age for hormone therapy has been set at 12 years (e22).

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

If they aren't cutting anything off, sewing anything on, or pumping 'em full of hormones,

Except they are pumping the hormones...
This is happening.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2697020/

•In other countries, however, the opinion prevails that it is appropriate to use LHRH (luteinizing hormone-releasing hormone) analogues, which block gonadotropin secretion and secondarily inhibit the sex steroids, for diagnosis and treatment (23). Using LHRH analogues is held to give the patient time to assess whether GID will persist, and to prevent the irreversible somatic changes corresponding to the sex of birth (particularly voice breaking and beard growth). This is supposed to bring relief and prevent psychiatric comorbidity (24). According to the standards of the Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association (2001), "completely reversible" gonadotropin blockade is to be followed in a second and a third phase by "partially reversible" (estrogen/testosterone therapy) and irreversible surgical interventions (e2). The elevated risk of misdiagnosis if treatment is begun early is considered to be acceptable in view of the putatively better results of treatment for correct indications (e21). In the Netherlands, the minimal age for hormone therapy has been set at 12 years (e22).

That doesn't seem like a great idea, and probably where I would draw the line.

But, I also know parents who let their underage kids get tattoos, and I think that is a terrible idea as well.

[Okeefenokee]

If they aren't cutting anything off, sewing anything on, or pumping 'em full of hormones,

Except they are pumping the hormones...
This is happening.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2697020/

•In other countries, however, the opinion prevails that it is appropriate to use LHRH (luteinizing hormone-releasing hormone) analogues, which block gonadotropin secretion and secondarily inhibit the sex steroids, for diagnosis and treatment (23). Using LHRH analogues is held to give the patient time to assess whether GID will persist, and to prevent the irreversible somatic changes corresponding to the sex of birth (particularly voice breaking and beard growth). This is supposed to bring relief and prevent psychiatric comorbidity (24). According to the standards of the Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association (2001), "completely reversible" gonadotropin blockade is to be followed in a second and a third phase by "partially reversible" (estrogen/testosterone therapy) and irreversible surgical interventions (e2). The elevated risk of misdiagnosis if treatment is begun early is considered to be acceptable in view of the putatively better results of treatment for correct indications (e21). In the Netherlands, the minimal age for hormone therapy has been set at 12 years (e22).

That doesn't seem like a great idea, and probably where I would draw the line.

But, I also know parents who let their underage kids get tattoos, and I think that is a terrible idea as well.

That's a bad comparison.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

That doesn't seem like a great idea, and probably where I would draw the line.

But, I also know parents who let their underage kids get tattoos, and I think that is a terrible idea as well.

That's a bad comparison.

Why? If you remove the permanent alteration part of the deal, I don't see the harm in letting a boy act like a girl (or vise versa) for a while. Kids are imaginative.

[Okeefenokee]

Altering a developing brain with chemicals is a different matter than putting ink on skin. Very different.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Altering a developing brain with chemicals is a different matter than putting ink on skin. Very different.

If I were arguing that I was fine with tattoos on kids, so I should be fine with pumping them full of hormones, you would be right.