Why are the Crimes of Stalinism Overlooked?

[Martin Hash]

Communism was mainstream in the early 1930s. Roosevelt had 3 in his cabinet, and all the labor unions were avowed Communists. (That’s the era of the Communist Fist, now used as the logo of the Washington State Democratic Party.)

It was basically a concerted FBI effort to demonize Communism during the 1940s & 50s that discredited them, otherwise we’d be full on Communists now. Just look what’s happened since the fall of the Soviets and the end of government-sponsored anti-Communist rhetoric.

[TheReal_ND]

Here's some crazy shit: in June 1942, Germany had 27 battalions on the Western Front & 180 on the Eastern Front, and Aug 1943 there were 46 on the Western & 189 on the Eastern, and it was like that most of the war. USSR defeated the Nazis.

And I can understand why most Americans weren't overtly anti russia in the late 1940s. But it still astonishing that socialism and communism were apologized for if not down right embraced by so many in journalism, academia, and politics around the 1960s still and by then you couldn't really honestly deny the atrocities of Stalin without at least blushing or being completely delusional.

The media is dominated by Jews same as the Bolsheviks were. The whole "Hitler's Bolshevik-Jewish conspiracy is a red herring" just doesn't pass the acid test. Jews are still overwhelmingly leftist and the only thing that will get you censored is speaking about them or questioning any one of their narratives.

[Ex-California]

Communism was mainstream in the early 1930s. Roosevelt had 3 in his cabinet, and all the labor unions were avowed Communists. (That’s the era of the Communist Fist, now used as the logo of the Washington State Democratic Party.)

It was basically a concerted FBI effort to demonize Communism during the 1940s & 50s that discredited them, otherwise we’d be full on Communists now. Just look what’s happened since the fall of the Soviets and the end of government-sponsored anti-Communist rhetoric.

As much as I hate the idea of McCarthyism I've come around to believe it helped us in the long run

[Speaker to Animals]

He might have been a dick, and not too bright, but he did turn out to be right about a communist infiltration in hindsight.

[Okeefenokee]

Because Marxists control the media, universities, and government schools. Next question.

This. They don't don't teach a single word on Stalin's crimes.

[Okeefenokee]

and everything else.

[Fife]

Again, and with some apparently necessary explanatory notes:

Uh, yeah, like, Stalin won the war.

Whether Churchill said "History is written by victors," or Göring said "We will go down in history either as the world's greatest statesmen or its worst villains," or both, the fact is that the Uncle Joe and the Marxists who sought safe harbor at Columbia won the war.


Wilson/Stalin was the adversary of the USA. Wilson won, then Unca Joe won.

[heydaralon]

As compared to the crimes of Hitlerism/Nazism? This is clearly a multifaceted problem, but do you think it had more to do with America's role in the Cold War (politicizing America's Containment policy etc.) or the association with Liberals - Socialism - Communism?

Here is a good talk with author of Gulag, Anne Applebaum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoO08EbT6zQ

Greece: Tony Judt wrote an excellent piece on academia's troubling relationship with Marxism. He makes an interesting point that we denounce holocaust deniers, and shut them out of education and politics, but it is perfectly acceptable to for an academic to question Stalin's death toll. Interestingly, Judt was quite liberal on many issues, but he knew that Marxism was a catastophic belief system. I forget the title of the piece, but you could look it up. If you are looking for a sharp critique on academia and the crimes of Marxism, you might check out Judt's collection of Essays called: Reappraisals (2008). If you are interested in learning about Marxism in practice in Europe post WW2, you should check out his book Postwar, which is a masterpiece.

[Smitty-48]

Again, and with some apparently necessary explanatory notes:

Uh, yeah, like, Stalin won the war.

Whether Churchill said "History is written by victors," or Göring said "We will go down in history either as the world's greatest statesmen or its worst villains," or both, the fact is that the Uncle Joe and the Marxists who sought safe harbor at Columbia won the war.


Wilson/Stalin was the adversary of the USA. Wilson won, then Unca Joe won.

Koba never saw America as his adversary, even come the Cold War, he went out of his way to ensure that there wasn't any head to head confrontations between the USA and USSR, he actually purged people who he thought were too gung-ho about it, he wanted no fight with America, all his adversaries were internal, he was all about consolidating power.

It was only after Stalin, with Khruschev, that the Soviets suddenly became all idealistic and confrontational with America. Stalin would never have put missiles in Cuba, not a chance, if someone had suggested it, I don't know if he would have had them shot, but he probably would have slapped them around and called them a crazy jackass.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

We built NATO to address the crimes of Stalinism... and then pretty effectively addressed them.

How many full command economies are left in the world?