Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by The Conservative » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:42 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:39 am
The Conservative wrote:
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You can't just increase capacity overnight.
It would have had to be built years before anyone had heard of Wuhan.
No one predicted that.
Ramping up production in the US would have been easier than you think... if people got off the tit of China and worked on rebuilding our own infrastructure.

We would have been fine food-wise too, the way things are now... at least if people were smart...

In the US during wartime we ramped up production in mere months, if we wanted to do something, and had the drive to do it, we could...

Regretfully we are saddled with people like you in the country that say it would take too long to do it, so why try?
I don’t think that there was any point during 2020 when we could have built the granary storage necessary to save an entire years crop before fall harvest….
Really? How much do you think goes to waste?
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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by C-Mag » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:43 am

I don't get the I'm smart your stupid argument in place of just stating your case.
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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by The Conservative » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:47 am

C-Mag wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:43 am
I don't get the I'm smart your stupid argument in place of just stating your case.
More than 90 million acres of land are planted to corn, with the majority of the crop grown in the Heartland region. 40% is used for ethanol production.

If we wanted to, we could remove the ethanol production of corn (since it doesn't actually help gasoline engines) and produce more grain, and other foods that would be required to help the US become independent. 40% BTW is 36+ Million acres.
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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:51 am

C-Mag wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:43 am
I don't get the I'm smart your stupid argument in place of just stating your case.
It’s about how the argument feeeeels mannnn….
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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by TheOneX » Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:26 pm

It isn't about storage, it is about supply lines, and not being flexible enough to switch supply lines quickly. The demand for food hasn't increase or decreased, but where the food goes has changed. Instead of sending it to the restaurant supply line, it needed to be redirected to the grocery store supply line.

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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by C-Mag » Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:32 pm

TheOneX wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:26 pm
It isn't about storage, it is about supply lines, and not being flexible enough to switch supply lines quickly. The demand for food hasn't increase or decreased, but where the food goes has changed. Instead of sending it to the restaurant supply line, it needed to be redirected to the grocery store supply line.
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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by The Conservative » Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:37 pm

TheOneX wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:26 pm
It isn't about storage, it is about supply lines, and not being flexible enough to switch supply lines quickly. The demand for food hasn't increase or decreased, but where the food goes has changed. Instead of sending it to the restaurant supply line, it needed to be redirected to the grocery store supply line.
Or away from using it as fuel. If the oil companies and others can't produce their own source of ethanol, don't ask the farmers to sacrifice 40% of their crops for the purpose. That has increased the cost of corn-based products by a significant amount.
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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by TheOneX » Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:53 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:37 pm
TheOneX wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:26 pm
It isn't about storage, it is about supply lines, and not being flexible enough to switch supply lines quickly. The demand for food hasn't increase or decreased, but where the food goes has changed. Instead of sending it to the restaurant supply line, it needed to be redirected to the grocery store supply line.
Or away from using it as fuel. If the oil companies and others can't produce their own source of ethanol, don't ask the farmers to sacrifice 40% of their crops for the purpose. That has increased the cost of corn-based products by a significant amount.
The only reason there is ethanol in fuel is because there is a government subsidy to put ethanol in fuel because back whenever it was there was an ethanol craze, so government decided it was the future. Now that we know it is not the future, we just leave the subsidy in place even because what would happen to the poor farmers!? What would happen is they would go back to how things were in 2005 before ethanol was a thing.

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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by The Conservative » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:04 pm

TheOneX wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:53 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:37 pm
TheOneX wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:26 pm
It isn't about storage, it is about supply lines, and not being flexible enough to switch supply lines quickly. The demand for food hasn't increase or decreased, but where the food goes has changed. Instead of sending it to the restaurant supply line, it needed to be redirected to the grocery store supply line.
Or away from using it as fuel. If the oil companies and others can't produce their own source of ethanol, don't ask the farmers to sacrifice 40% of their crops for the purpose. That has increased the cost of corn-based products by a significant amount.
The only reason there is ethanol in fuel is because there is a government subsidy to put ethanol in fuel because back whenever it was there was an ethanol craze, so government decided it was the future. Now that we know it is not the future, we just leave the subsidy in place even because what would happen to the poor farmers!? What would happen is they would go back to how things were in 2005 before ethanol was a thing.
Again, if we wanted to be truly independent? We could use those same subsidies for a short while to allow the farmers to go to other crops that would help remove the need to import things from other countries.
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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:13 pm

I have to go to special gas stations that do NOT put ethanol in their fuel.
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