So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:53 pm

And again, confronting Iran is still the Domino Theory.

If Tehran is permitted to run amok, all the Dominoes will fall.

It was simply repackaged in 1980 as the Carter Doctrine.

All policy in the Middle East is the Domino Theory under the auspices of the Carter Doctrine.

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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:02 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:56 pm
The shooting down did not happen in isolation.
It was a consequence of the Iranian missile attack on a US airbase which in turn was a consequence of the killing of Soleimani by a US drone which was a consequence of the attack on the Saudi oil refinery which was a consequence of the increased sanctions on Iran which were a consequence of pulling out of the nuclear deal.
Partisan hacks only see events in black and white though and are incapable of seeing gray areas.
Pragmatists try to see events from all angles.
As Scott Adams correctly derived in his video today: the responsibility for the Ukrainian airliner being shot down lies at King George’s feet: it was Great Britain’s fault, Monty; now fuckin’ pay up.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:20 pm

America struck with uncanny precision, not in Iran, in Iraq, killing a single combatant, no collateral damage.

Iran then launched into an indiscriminate retaliation, blowing their own people out of the sky.

Tragic, but not America's fault.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:07 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:02 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:56 pm
The shooting down did not happen in isolation.
It was a consequence of the Iranian missile attack on a US airbase which in turn was a consequence of the killing of Soleimani by a US drone which was a consequence of the attack on the Saudi oil refinery which was a consequence of the increased sanctions on Iran which were a consequence of pulling out of the nuclear deal.
Partisan hacks only see events in black and white though and are incapable of seeing gray areas.
Pragmatists try to see events from all angles.
As Scott Adams correctly derived in his video today: the responsibility for the Ukrainian airliner being shot down lies at King George’s feet: it was Great Britain’s fault, Monty; now fuckin’ pay up.

p.s. Scott Adams is the greatest pragmatist in the world today.
No. Can't go back that far. Nobody gave a shit about ME oil back in the 18th century.
Most of the oil back then came from Whales so it was their population we were fucking up.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:33 pm

The U.S. is the largest oil producer in the world.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:42 pm

Taking the Middle East from the Ottoman Turks was never about oil

It was all about the Suez Canal, India and the Far East beyond.

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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:48 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:33 pm
The U.S. is the largest oil producer in the world.
Indeed, and as such, were the Iranians to close the Straits of Hormuz now, that would not be a crippling blow

The Carter Doctrine (Domino theory) is obsolete.

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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by The Conservative » Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:55 pm

StCapps wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:34 am
Well you got that part about not putting on a show wrong.
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Reality TV Show Man puts on the best show is all.
Pfft, if that is the only thing I got wrong, I did pretty well predicting it back almost 16 years ago when he got elected the first time...
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:07 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:33 pm
The U.S. is the largest oil producer in the world.
So what?
The United States, produces roughly 12 million barrels per day, but consumes 20 million bpd, meaning it must import the rest.

Much of the US shortfall comes from Canada, but some still comes from Saudi Arabia, Iraq and other Gulf nations because several US refineries prefer their oil.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-18/ ... e/11519486
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:22 pm

Keep up Mutterfukker.

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