HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:32 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:20 pm
There’s been massive confusion between “free trade” and “globalism”.

One involves the flow of goods between nations without tariffs or restrictions, and the other involves imposing global rules and standards.

Free trade is absolutely necessary to the modern economy. Globalism is not.

This confusion is intentional, and promoted by globalists. They use it to obfuscate their true aims.

I think you’ll find that 90% of us are opposed to globalism, but not free trade, once we’re aware of the distinction.
Wise words.
I'm sure many of the most rabid anti-globalists wear Swiss watches, drink Scottish malt whiskey, drive German cars and use smartphones made in China while bitching that American jobs are going overseas.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:34 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:25 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:47 pm
He's been in this thread since the start, absolutely butt pained about the riots. He was absolutely butt pained about Brexit and hardly a day goes by he doesnt say something like, "see, I told you so." When he's not championing his hash that he buys from some stranger to his people he is celebrating the diverse cuisine. He is nothing if not lock stock and barrel an open border advocate and will always be. I like the guy personally but I shake my head every time he tutt-tutts someone for not wanting to be a foreigner in their own land. Shame really but perhaps he has lived a sheltered life.
I hate people dying and private property getting destroyed over this. I never supported the not my President violence or any other politically motivated riots.
Brexit is going to do real damage to my country.
I've been to the part of Morroco that produces the hash I buy and stayed for a week with the lovely people there. I was treated like an honoured guest in their house, fed so often I had trouble keeping up with all the food and was expected to give nothing in return.
I'm a chef, of course I find food from other countries interesting.
I don't believe in open borders but I do accept legal immigration is necessary both for our economy and also to help in understanding foreign cultures, I do not fear the unfamiliar or those not like me.
I don't think I have lived a sheltered life. I've travelled a lot, seen many different cultures and mixed with people from all levels of my own society and others.
I've spent extended periods in Muslim countries and know for a fact they are not all terrorists and rapists as they are portrayed by ignorant and scared people who have never spent time with them.
I like you too Nuke but I abhor your ideology of fear and hatred.
You suffer the same delusions that the MSM would have you then if you believe it is about fear and violence. My ideology is based on love. Not only for my people, White Americans, but also for Europeans that I view as having a close kindsmanship with. And my love does not stop there. I also have had positive relations with different peoples and different cultures. I love them all. I hate how the powers that be decided that our nations and our cultures should take a back seat while our nations are turned into a fucking melting pot. I see no point in this and it strikes me as openly hostile to not only myself, but my son and his son. No. I do not want to race mix. I want my grandchild to look like me. I like White women. I do not want to be a minority in my own nation but I already am and for my son? What happens to him now? Have you not seen the violence against White Americans yet? Have you not seen the violence against you, native Britons yet? Where does it end?

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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:36 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:31 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:27 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:20 pm
There’s been massive confusion between “free trade” and “globalism”.

One involves the flow of goods between nations without tariffs or restrictions, and the other involves imposing global rules and standards.

Free trade is absolutely necessary to the modern economy. Globalism is not.

This confusion is intentional, and promoted by globalists. They use it to obfuscate their true aims.

I think you’ll find that 90% of us are opposed to globalism, but not free trade, once we’re aware of the distinction.
First of all stop reddit spacing. It doesnt make your point more profound and as soon as I start seeing it I usually start skimming anyway so it isn't doing any favors for you in regards to impacting an audience that is sick and fucking tired of you holier than thou redditors and your formatting. Second of all, you seem to be saying that you support free trade. That is fine and dandy whatever but that put's you in reality, to the right of a lot of Trump supporters. A lot of us are actually pro labor and protectionist, environmentalists beleive it or not. I thought the "socialism" in " National Socialism" gave it away. You know, the nazis you keep calling everyone?
I call you that because you’ve posted somewhere around 300 Nazi memes and avatars around here for years :lol:

I space my thoughts, because I skim walls of text, and I want to be clear about what I’m saying, because people love to react to half of what I type.

How is being pro free trade “protectionist”? It’s actually the opposite of that.
I do not know. I am not a free trader. I am a laborer of a class lower than the immigrants my taxes subsidize. I am protectionist.

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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:43 pm

"Free trade" is an Orwellian political slogan purposely chosen to hide the truth behind the opposite of what it really is. What is called free trade is neither free nor trade.

Whenever it is put to a vote, people of most western nations vote FUCK NO to offshoring their jobs and the national security of their countries as well. That's not free. We are not free to opt out of this suicidal ideology, and when we attempt to, the globalists subvert the democratic process to preserve it.

It is not trade when an American company offshores a factory from America to China, produces goods in China, and then reimports them to the United States to sell in our markets. If Ford moves a truck factory from Michigan to Indiana, is that trade? No. If they then move it to Ohio, does it become trade because it now crossed two state borders? No. Why would it become trade just because they moved over the US border instead of a state border? It's not trade.

Trade is when Chinese companies build Chinese products in China and then ship them to the United States to sell in our markets. That's trade. That's not what is meant by "free trade", however.

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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:51 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:34 pm
You suffer the same delusions that the MSM would have you then if you believe it is about fear and violence. My ideology is based on love. Not only for my people, White Americans, but also for Europeans that I view as having a close kindsmanship with. And my love does not stop there. I also have had positive relations with different peoples and different cultures. I love them all. I hate how the powers that be decided that our nations and our cultures should take a back seat while our nations are turned into a fucking melting pot. I see no point in this and it strikes me as openly hostile to not only myself, but my son and his son. No. I do not want to race mix. I want my grandchild to look like me. I like White women. I do not want to be a minority in my own nation but I already am and for my son? What happens to him now? Have you not seen the violence against White Americans yet? Have you not seen the violence against you, native Britons yet? Where does it end?
The violence against ''my people''( I believe all people are my people) is blown out of all proportion. More white English people are murdered by other white English people by a large margin.

These terrorist attacks are treated by the media the same way you accuse the media of reacting to mass shootings. They are both rare and disgusting criminal acts and I hate every single case but I'm not going to live in fear of terrorism any more than you are going to live in fear of gun violence.

I'm sure you and I would get along fine if we ever met up and went for a pint or shared a joint despite our ideological differences. I respect your sense of humour and obvious intelligence but I fear you are wasting your talents with your poisonous political beliefs.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by C-Mag » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:54 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:47 pm
He's been in this thread since the start
You're all johnny come late to the story...……….. I was telling you guys something was going on for 2 weeks before you woke up. What do you know :snooty:



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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:57 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:51 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:34 pm
You suffer the same delusions that the MSM would have you then if you believe it is about fear and violence. My ideology is based on love. Not only for my people, White Americans, but also for Europeans that I view as having a close kindsmanship with. And my love does not stop there. I also have had positive relations with different peoples and different cultures. I love them all. I hate how the powers that be decided that our nations and our cultures should take a back seat while our nations are turned into a fucking melting pot. I see no point in this and it strikes me as openly hostile to not only myself, but my son and his son. No. I do not want to race mix. I want my grandchild to look like me. I like White women. I do not want to be a minority in my own nation but I already am and for my son? What happens to him now? Have you not seen the violence against White Americans yet? Have you not seen the violence against you, native Britons yet? Where does it end?
The violence against ''my people''( I believe all people are my people) is blown out of all proportion. More white English people are murdered by other white English people by a large margin.

These terrorist attacks are treated by the media the same way you accuse the media of reacting to mass shootings. They are both rare and disgusting criminal acts and I hate every single case but I'm not going to live in fear of terrorism any more than you are going to live in fear of gun violence.

I'm sure you and I would get along fine if we ever met up and went for a pint or shared a joint despite our ideological differences. I respect your sense of humour and obvious intelligence but I fear you are wasting your talents with your poisonous political beliefs.
As you say then. Nothing is happening when demographics take a sharp nose dive. Nothing is happening when quality of life goes with it. Perhaps this is correct. If that's the case then the open border folks would be wise to shut the fuck up instead of threatening my race with violence. Violence will be met with more and I dont want to hear any wailing or knashing of teeth from any bystander.

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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:27 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:43 pm
Trade is when Chinese companies build Chinese products in China and then ship them to the United States to sell in our markets. That's trade. That's not what is meant by "free trade", however.
You mean that's not what Globalists mean by 'free trade'. And you're right, it is used that way (which is what I just finished saying).


You want to stop that, you don't do it with tariffs. You do it by passing legislation to restrict company HQs to their home country. Or to make it illegal for production of a final product to happen in a different country than it's sold in. But that will not happen in current timeline.
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Post by C-Mag » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:10 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:27 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:43 pm
Trade is when Chinese companies build Chinese products in China and then ship them to the United States to sell in our markets. That's trade. That's not what is meant by "free trade", however.
You mean that's not what Globalists mean by 'free trade'. And you're right, it is used that way (which is what I just finished saying).


You want to stop that, you don't do it with tariffs. You do it by passing legislation to restrict company HQs to their home country. Or to make it illegal for production of a final product to happen in a different country than it's sold in. But that will not happen in current timeline.
It's far from people trading freely. A lot more about international corporate protectionism.


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Post by heydaralon » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:45 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:43 pm
"Free trade" is an Orwellian political slogan purposely chosen to hide the truth behind the opposite of what it really is. What is called free trade is neither free nor trade.

Whenever it is put to a vote, people of most western nations vote FUCK NO to offshoring their jobs and the national security of their countries as well. That's not free. We are not free to opt out of this suicidal ideology, and when we attempt to, the globalists subvert the democratic process to preserve it.

It is not trade when an American company offshores a factory from America to China, produces goods in China, and then reimports them to the United States to sell in our markets. If Ford moves a truck factory from Michigan to Indiana, is that trade? No. If they then move it to Ohio, does it become trade because it now crossed two state borders? No. Why would it become trade just because they moved over the US border instead of a state border? It's not trade.

Trade is when Chinese companies build Chinese products in China and then ship them to the United States to sell in our markets. That's trade. That's not what is meant by "free trade", however.
Yep. Free Trade is almost as sickening as diversity in its Orwellian connotations. We are among the stupidest people on Earth for being on board with this and ruining our awesome society. We burned the candle at both ends. Made our jobs less and shitty and simultaneously importing in a bunch of immigrants and H1B opportunists to utterly hollow out our labor market. Its really hopeless now. Oh well, at least we can afford all that Wally World chink lead paint.
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