The Great Wall of Trump

[Montegriffo]

Rules without enforcement are just guidelines at best.

So why not start with that rather than post a picture of saw saying "walls don't work"?

Because they are two different subjects.
Why are you conflating the two separate statements?

[PartyOf5]

Rules without enforcement are just guidelines at best.

So why not start with that rather than post a picture of saw saying "walls don't work"?

Because they are two different subjects.
Why are you conflating the two separate statements?

They really aren't. Posting a saw and saying walls don't work is just saying that if someone really wants to break the law, they will find a way to do so. Just like someone who wants to go on a killing spree is going to ignore your stupid "gun free zone" signs. Yet you will never make the argument that gun free zones are a waste of time. You also intentionally (and dishonestly) fail to acknowledge that the wall is just a piece of the whole solution to reducing illegal immigration.

Going back to the beginning, your post with the saw is a dishonest hack bitch move and you know it.

[SuburbanFarmer]

You’ve clearly never worked with a Mexican.

Just like any other race or ethnicity you get some who work hard and some that sponge off others. It's not all or nothing, but letting millions of people in that have little education, likely don't speak English, and have limited skills other than manual labor and you're going to get a large number of sponges.

In my experience, the meme that they work harder is just another of those propaganda myths belonging to the "everybody knows" category.

Especially in construction, Mexicans will completely fuck up new constructions with half-assed workmanship that costs buyers bigly down the road.

It is yet another cost of this illegal colonization of the US that probably should get added on to the total bill and shoved down Subaru Flounder"s throat.

Nah, I worked with many in Florida. I can’t speak to craftsmanship, as the homes down there are all half ass anyway. But the average first-gen hombre outworks any 2 Americanos easily.

Their kids are kinda douchey.

[Montegriffo]

So why not start with that rather than post a picture of saw saying "walls don't work"?

Because they are two different subjects.
Why are you conflating the two separate statements?

They really aren't. Posting a saw and saying walls don't work is just saying that if someone really wants to break the law, they will find a way to do so. Just like someone who wants to go on a killing spree is going to ignore your stupid "gun free zone" signs. Yet you will never make the argument that gun free zones are a waste of time. You also intentionally (and dishonestly) fail to acknowledge that the wall is just a piece of the whole solution to reducing illegal immigration.

Going back to the beginning, your post with the saw is a dishonest hack bitch move and you know it.

If a gun-free zone is just ''a stupid gun-free zone sign'' it is a total waste of time. If it had been enforced at the entrance to this garlic festival then the shooter would have been detained before he could shoot anyone.
Of course, your gun nuts would throw a fit about being searched for firearms and even lefty Americans would complain about ''big brother'' or some such shit.
Nothing changes as a result and in a weeks time garlic festivals will be old news as the next mass shooting hits the headlines.

As for

You also intentionally (and dishonestly) fail to acknowledge that the wall is just a piece of the whole solution to reducing illegal immigration.

That's just angry nonsense.
If you care to read my posts I have regularly stated that much more effective anti-illegal immigration measures are being underfunded due to Trump's vanity project.

[Fife]

If it had been enforced at the entrance to this garlic festival then the shooter would have been detained before he could shoot anyone.

To be fair, there's no telling what kind of "news" Montez is receiving on the story.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Not loving the idea of gated farmers markets. But if you’re going to declare a ‘zone’ of any kind, it should be enforced with more than a sign.

[PartyOf5]

If a gun-free zone is just ''a stupid gun-free zone sign'' it is a total waste of time.

That's exactly what they are in the US. Buildings post signs on the doors saying "This place is firearm-free area". There are no scanners or security checking at 99% of the places with these signs posted.

Of course, your gun nuts would throw a fit about being searched for firearms and even lefty Americans would complain about ''big brother'' or some such shit.

Bullshit. There are places that do searches for weapons upon entry, and no one is protesting or complaining about them.

As for

You also intentionally (and dishonestly) fail to acknowledge that the wall is just a piece of the whole solution to reducing illegal immigration.

That's just angry nonsense.
If you care to read my posts I have regularly stated that much more effective anti-illegal immigration measures are being underfunded due to Trump's vanity project.

Without going through 87 pages to find it, what measures are you referring to?

[Montegriffo]

If a gun-free zone is just ''a stupid gun-free zone sign'' it is a total waste of time.

That's exactly what they are in the US. Buildings post signs on the doors saying "This place is firearm-free area". There are no scanners or security checking at 99% of the places with these signs posted.

Of course, your gun nuts would throw a fit about being searched for firearms and even lefty Americans would complain about ''big brother'' or some such shit.

Bullshit. There are places that do searches for weapons upon entry, and no one is protesting or complaining about them.

As for

You also intentionally (and dishonestly) fail to acknowledge that the wall is just a piece of the whole solution to reducing illegal immigration.

That's just angry nonsense.
If you care to read my posts I have regularly stated that much more effective anti-illegal immigration measures are being underfunded due to Trump's vanity project.

Without going through 87 pages to find it, what measures are you referring to?

Going after employers who give jobs to undocumented immigrants.
Following up on visa overstays.
More border patrol officers.

All more effective than a wall.

[PartyOf5]

Going after employers who give jobs to undocumented immigrants.
Following up on visa overstays.
More border patrol officers.

All more effective than a wall.

Going after employers - Yes, we should be doing more of this, but it is offset by places like California offering up free healthcare, school and drivers licences to illegals. They won't need a job if the government hands everything they need to them.

Visa overstays - How many of those crossing over illegally from the Mexican border have visas? Zero. So while that may address an aspect of illegal immigration, it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is securing the border.

More border patrol officers - How many officers do you want for the almost 2,000 miles of southern border would be enough? The wall helps funnel the crossings to manageable areas where the officers have a better chance of catching them.

None of these are more effective than the wall. They all pieces to an overall solution. No one is saying the wall is the single solution.

[The Conservative]

Because they are two different subjects.
Why are you conflating the two separate statements?

They really aren't. Posting a saw and saying walls don't work is just saying that if someone really wants to break the law, they will find a way to do so. Just like someone who wants to go on a killing spree is going to ignore your stupid "gun free zone" signs. Yet you will never make the argument that gun free zones are a waste of time. You also intentionally (and dishonestly) fail to acknowledge that the wall is just a piece of the whole solution to reducing illegal immigration.

Going back to the beginning, your post with the saw is a dishonest hack bitch move and you know it.

If a gun-free zone is just ''a stupid gun-free zone sign'' it is a total waste of time. If it had been enforced at the entrance to this garlic festival then the shooter would have been detained before he could shoot anyone.

"Hey you have a gun, stop. If you don't I'll say stop again!" Says no one... seriously, if anyone stopped him before he got in, he would have probably killed the people trying to stop him.