Trump's SCOTUS

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:50 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:05 am
Xenophon wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:00 am


Video proof that principles and fairness aren't strengths:

Bad shit happens, ergo principles are weaknesses

QED?
HM - "Some people did something".

Bad shit happens is a tornado wiping out your business. This is war.

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:56 am

apeman wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:16 am
Oh, nevermind, Kavanaugh was just some "bad shit happens", let's strike a handshake deal with the people who called him a gang rapist
The Democrats would have loved him if only he had been a rapist that resisted arrest and then got shot. Or if he had been a multiple time child rapist who chased after a minor with a Molotov and got shot. Those are heroes.

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:04 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:50 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:05 am
Xenophon wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:00 am


Video proof that principles and fairness aren't strengths:

Bad shit happens, ergo principles are weaknesses

QED?
HM - "Some people did something".

Bad shit happens is a tornado wiping out your business. This is war.
Okay, bad people do bad shit, ergo principles are weaknesses

A distinction without a difference, since the conclusion doesn't follow from the premise either way.
HAIL!

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:06 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:17 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:14 am
I believe a man’s gotta have a code but you’re making principles sounds a lot like morals? The only principle is liberty, and all other decisions flow from there. If you want, I’ll make those decisions for you?
That's a good principle.

I am not sure what the moral/principle distinction is in your lexicon, though, since morality is typically defined as principles for determining right from wrong.
You haven't been listening to my podcasts again...

"Right" & "wrong" are subjective. Liberty is measurable.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:13 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:06 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:17 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:14 am
I believe a man’s gotta have a code but you’re making principles sounds a lot like morals? The only principle is liberty, and all other decisions flow from there. If you want, I’ll make those decisions for you?
That's a good principle.

I am not sure what the moral/principle distinction is in your lexicon, though, since morality is typically defined as principles for determining right from wrong.
You haven't been listening to my podcasts again...

"Right" & "wrong" are subjective. Liberty is measurable.
If you'll indulge me in an abstraction, it sounds like you are saying that a good principle has to be measurable for effective determinations of right and wrong. That doesn't nullify morality, it is just a boundary around which principles you think are valid for sorting right from wrong - or, in a word - morality.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:43 am

Oral illusion.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:46 am

Your insistence that your principles are amoral confuses me.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Xenophon » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:54 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:46 am
Your insistence that your principles are amoral confuses me.
My understanding of Martin's thought is that he holds Liberty above anything else. He chooses not to ascribe morality to the concept of Liberty because morality is constricting, which is in opposition to Liberty.

I think that's what he believes. I don't want to misrepresent him.

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:58 am

Xenophon wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:54 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:46 am
Your insistence that your principles are amoral confuses me.
My understanding of Martin's thought is that he holds Liberty above anything else. He chooses not to ascribe morality to the concept of Liberty because morality is constricting, which is in opposition to Liberty.

I think that's what he believes. I don't want to misrepresent him.
That’s pretty damn good: I think that now.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:01 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:46 am
Your insistence that your principles are amoral confuses me.
You’ll have to provide some examples?

Is life part of your morality? How about truth? Respect? Violence? Masculinity? The Ten Commandments? I have no idea what morals you’re talking about?

If you can claim it but I disagree, that’s subjective. I’m willing to kill you over liberty, that’s objective.
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