THE ERA OF TRUMP

[Smitty-48]

I was talking about drug legalization, not military adventures.

Oh, well that's not going to happen, a military adventure on the other hand is quite plausible.

Indeed. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. The prohibitionists will rule for a long time to come, it's a long war, it certainly isn't going to be won anytime soon.

Legalization doesn't stop bootlegging anyways, there would still be cartels, they would simply diversify more.

[StCapps]

Oh, well that's not going to happen, a military adventure on the other hand is quite plausible.

Indeed. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. The prohibitionists will rule for a long time to come, it's a long war, it certainly isn't going to be won anytime soon.

Legalization doesn't stop bootlegging anyways, there would still be cartels, they would simply diversify more.

Indeed, but it's very clear that drug prohibition is of great benefit to the cartels, and forcing them to diversify is still a pretty big win. If cartels had more legal competition, they wouldn't make nearly as much as they do now.

Too bad prohibition is so popular with the rubes, to the point that decriminalization is not politically feasible, oh well.

[Smitty-48]

Indeed. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. The prohibitionists will rule for a long time to come, it's a long war, it certainly isn't going to be won anytime soon.

Legalization doesn't stop bootlegging anyways, there would still be cartels, they would simply diversify more.

Indeed, but it's very clear that drug prohibition is of great benefit to the cartels, and forcing them to diversify is still a pretty big win. If cartels had more legal competition, they wouldn't make nearly as much as they do now.

Too bad prohibition is so popular with the rubes, to the point that decriminalization is not politically feasible, oh well.

The power of the cartels has more to do with weak governance all over Latin America; no rule of Anglo-Saxon law.

[StCapps]

Legalization doesn't stop bootlegging anyways, there would still be cartels, they would simply diversify more.

Indeed, but it's very clear that drug prohibition is of great benefit to the cartels, and forcing them to diversify is still a pretty big win. If cartels had more legal competition, they wouldn't make nearly as much as they do now.

Too bad prohibition is so popular with the rubes, to the point that decriminalization is not politically feasible, oh well.

The power of the cartels has more to do with weak governance all over Latin America; no rule of Anglo-Saxon law.

True. The real question is, what is the best way to for Mexico to acquire some rule of law and stronger governance, and what would be the optimal strategy for America to help incentivize that? Especially considering with how much sway these cartels have over the weak corrupt governance that there is and prop it up so they can exploit the situation.

[Smitty-48]

Indeed, but it's very clear that drug prohibition is of great benefit to the cartels, and forcing them to diversify is still a pretty big win. If cartels had more legal competition, they wouldn't make nearly as much as they do now.

Too bad prohibition is so popular with the rubes, to the point that decriminalization is not politically feasible, oh well.

The power of the cartels has more to do with weak governance all over Latin America; no rule of Anglo-Saxon law.

True. The real question is, what is the best way to for Mexico to acquire some rule of law and stronger governance, and what would be the optimal strategy for America to help incentivize that? Especially considering with how much sway these cartels have over the weak corrupt governance that there is and prop it up so they can exploit the situation.

Some things defy solutions,

Thinking that there is a solution to everything is called American Know How

which then invokes the Best & Brightest.

This is how America gets itself into the quagmires, Do Something! + American Know How!

Containment is really all that can be done with a basket case like Mexico.

[TheReal_ND]

The president says hugs not bullets. There is no solution to criminal anarchy in that environment. They have criminal anarchy because that is what they want.

[Smitty-48]

There is no military solution

Unleashing NSA, CIA & JSOC would work too well, they would quickly break the cartels up

But that just creates more chaos, the cartels are the central authority,

Without them, the streets get even more chaotic as the gangs fight for control at the next level below

[TheReal_ND]

There is no military solution

Unleashing NSA, CIA & JSOC would work too well, they would quickly break the cartels up

But that just creates more chaos, the cartels are the central authority,

Without them, the streets get even more chaotic as the gangs fight for control at the next level below

Don't let the CIA out at them. God knows they have created enough chaos and gnashing of teeth for everyone except them and their fucking families.

[TheReal_ND]

I'll tell you something that amuse me tho

Romney is all about military strikes now

You think he'd do that if it wasn't his family getting fucked up? You think he'd do that when Mexicans get to pour over our borders and slaughter our daughters everyday?

[StCapps]

The power of the cartels has more to do with weak governance all over Latin America; no rule of Anglo-Saxon law.

True. The real question is, what is the best way to for Mexico to acquire some rule of law and stronger governance, and what would be the optimal strategy for America to help incentivize that? Especially considering with how much sway these cartels have over the weak corrupt governance that there is and prop it up so they can exploit the situation.

Some things defy solutions,

Thinking that there is a solution to everything is called American Know How

which then invokes the Best & Brightest.

This is how America gets itself into the quagmires, Do Something! + American Know How!

Containment is really all that can be done with a basket case like Mexico.

Doing something for the sake of doing something, even when it's counter-productive, is a pretty lame strategy, who knew?

Containment and Flight To Quality FTW.

You can show the basket case the shining city on a hill, but you can't force them to emulate your success, they got to want it for themselves.

In the meantime, secure the border, fix the immigration system, and slowly push back the prohibitionists.