Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Xenophon » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:27 am

I'm glad that HM is just willing to drop the mask completely. He's doing the "I'ma just be snide and not try and refute your sources." shtick because he truly has nothing of worth to contribute.

Wildly increased technological advances in a short time have nothing to do with a person's mental health, you say? Yeah. Sure.

No one is trying to take away your Funko Pops, dude. Chill out.

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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:28 am

I read your sources.

If you think industrial society is so terrible, go to Portland, join the Black Block, and start fucking up some systems.

At least they have the courage of their convictions, as stupid, misguided, and irrational as those convictions are.
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Xenophon » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:31 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:28 am
I read your sources.

If you think industrial society is so terrible, go to Portland, join the Black Block, and start fucking up some systems.

At least they have the courage of their convictions, as stupid, misguided, and irrational as those convictions are.
You're an idiot if you think BLM and Antifa are enemies of the current system. Name one thing they believe that isn't parroted by every Human Resources department in this country. They don't want to tear the current system down. They want everyone who values personal liberty dead. They want them all dead and their own degeneracy lauded as true and good.

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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:33 am

You're an idiot if you think destroying industry, capital, and technology is going to improve people's lives by curing their depression.
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Xenophon » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:40 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:33 am
You're an idiot if you think destroying industry, capital, and technology is going to improve people's lives by curing their depression.
Who in this thread has lobbied for that? You're strawmanning like hell.

"YOU QUOTED THE UNABOMBER YOU BELIEVE EVERYTHING HE SAID, REEEEEEEEE"

Your contention is that the industrial revolution and the prodigious advancements in technology over a relatively short period of time has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with a decrease in general happiness and an increase in mental illness. I just don't see how you can make those leaps.

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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:48 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:28 am
I read your sources.

If you think industrial society is so terrible, go to Portland, join the Black Block, and start fucking up some systems.

At least they have the courage of their convictions, as stupid, misguided, and irrational as those convictions are.
The industrial society is on its face a royal fuckup. We escalated our ability without realizing what we would sacrifice in the process of doing so. We destroyed the social and economic structure of the family, and in doing so we have also destroyed in many cases the lower and low-mid income families by forcing people to work to not only "keep up with the joneses" but also to keep just above the ever-increasing waterline of debt that our income can barely cover.

When in 1990 to now inflation has increased at a rate of almost 100% (actually 97.24%)

That means for every dollar back in 1990 it will cost 1.97 to buy the same thing today.

With incomes pretty much staying stagnant, the average income back in the '90s gave the people about 7.5K a month for the middle class (take home). That would be about 230K today... but guess what, today the upper-middle-class makes about the same (120 to 170k *if you are lucky) if two family members are working full time at good-paying jobs.

The income, the inflation, the more work, get paid less, and everything else to go along with it has disenfranchised almost everyone who works for people.... why do you think the Industrial Society isn't screwed up?
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by PartyOf5 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:49 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:16 am
You guys realize you are praising a failed scientist who crippled real scientists with all your "the left are losers that hate science" nonsense?

Someone who was unemployable and jobless, but managed to murder a small business owner.

Real hero.
Who's praising? No one called him a hero.

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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Xenophon » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:50 am

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:48 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:28 am
I read your sources.

If you think industrial society is so terrible, go to Portland, join the Black Block, and start fucking up some systems.

At least they have the courage of their convictions, as stupid, misguided, and irrational as those convictions are.
The industrial society is on its face a royal fuckup. We escalated our ability without realizing what we would sacrifice in the process of doing so. We destroyed the social and economic structure of the family, and in doing so we have also destroyed in many cases the lower and low-mid income families by forcing people to work to not only "keep up with the joneses" but also to keep just above the ever-increasing waterline of debt that our income can barely cover.

When in 1990 to now inflation has increased at a rate of almost 100% (actually 97.24%)

That means for every dollar back in 1990 it will cost 1.97 to buy the same thing today.

With incomes pretty much staying stagnant, the average income back in the '90s gave the people about 7.5K a month for the middle class (take home). That would be about 230K today... but guess what, today the upper-middle-class makes about the same (120 to 170k *if you are lucky) if two family members are working full time at good-paying jobs.

The income, the inflation, the more work, get paid less, and everything else to go along with it has disenfranchised almost everyone who works for people.... why do you think the Industrial Society isn't screwed up?
He's confusing actual criticism of the system with fake criticism of the system by people who are supported by the system. He doesn't understand nuance, clearly.

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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:51 am

Xenophon wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:50 am
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:48 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:28 am
I read your sources.

If you think industrial society is so terrible, go to Portland, join the Black Block, and start fucking up some systems.

At least they have the courage of their convictions, as stupid, misguided, and irrational as those convictions are.
The industrial society is on its face a royal fuckup. We escalated our ability without realizing what we would sacrifice in the process of doing so. We destroyed the social and economic structure of the family, and in doing so we have also destroyed in many cases the lower and low-mid income families by forcing people to work to not only "keep up with the joneses" but also to keep just above the ever-increasing waterline of debt that our income can barely cover.

When in 1990 to now inflation has increased at a rate of almost 100% (actually 97.24%)

That means for every dollar back in 1990 it will cost 1.97 to buy the same thing today.

With incomes pretty much staying stagnant, the average income back in the '90s gave the people about 7.5K a month for the middle class (take home). That would be about 230K today... but guess what, today the upper-middle-class makes about the same (120 to 170k *if you are lucky) if two family members are working full time at good-paying jobs.

The income, the inflation, the more work, get paid less, and everything else to go along with it has disenfranchised almost everyone who works for people.... why do you think the Industrial Society isn't screwed up?
He's confusing actual criticism of the system with fake criticism of the system by people who are supported by the system. He doesn't understand nuance, clearly.
And yet, I can? Does that scare anyone else? :P
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by PartyOf5 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:52 am

Xenophon wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:48 am
C-Mag wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:45 am
DHS turning security of the Portland courthouse over to the Oregon state police.


Trump really sucks at tyrannical martial law
Don't worry, the next round of hysteria is already coming. Next it will be "Trump's suspending elections! He's a danger to democracy!"
I'm beginning to wonder if him saying that was just to set up the DNC. More 4d chess by the master.