Trump's SCOTUS

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by DBTrek » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:31 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:28 am
So now an anonymous accusation on a little forum is the same as testifying before a Senate committee?
Who testified before the senate? Nobody. Yet here you are declaring a man a sex offender based off accusations alone.
If anyone wants to make a public accusation about me using their real name then go ahead, I will be glad to take you to court for slander and sue you for every penny you have.
That bit of cowardice certainly explains why you choose to slander others behind a screen name. I guess you’re safe from Kavanaugh suing you for calling him a sex offender as long as you keep your identity well hidden. Are there any standards you actually hold yourself to?
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:33 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:28 am
DBTrek wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:13 am
He’s not blind, but he is an accused sex offender - which according to his own standards makes him an actual sex offender.
/shrug
So now an anonymous accusation on a little forum is the same as testifying before a Senate committee?
Granted I should have said alleged sex offender, I'll admit my mistake but don't try to say my situation is the same.
If anyone wants to make a public accusation about me using their real name then go ahead, I will be glad to take you to court for slander and sue you for every penny you have.
Yep.

Baseless allegations == baseless allegation.

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by C-Mag » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:37 am

DBTrek wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:31 am


Who testified before the senate? Nobody. Yet here you are declaring a man a sex offender based off accusations alone.
Brett Kavanaugh testified and has been investigated 6 times by the FBI. But you shouldn't believe him. :roll:
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:39 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:17 am
Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:10 am
The left doesn't care about arguments...
They also don't care about victims. If the women are telling the truth, then the Dems only used them as tools to aid them in holding off the SCOTUS nomination. If they believed the story and cared about the victims this would not have been sat on until just before the vote. If they don't believe the story, then they are telling actual victims of sexual assault that their cause doesn't matter.
Stop letting yourself be trolled....everyone already knows what you just stated...the lines have been drawn...
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:40 am

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:37 am
DBTrek wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:31 am


Who testified before the senate? Nobody. Yet here you are declaring a man a sex offender based off accusations alone.
Brett Kavanaugh testified and has been investigated 6 times by the FBI. But you shouldn't believe him. :roll:

Same to you as to Party - everyone left, right, and center (what's left) knows this...it's fucking kabuki theatre at this point...

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:44 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:17 am
Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:10 am
The left doesn't care about arguments...
They also don't care about victims. If the women are telling the truth, then the Dems only used them as tools to aid them in holding off the SCOTUS nomination. If they believed the story and cared about the victims this would not have been sat on until just before the vote. If they don't believe the story, then they are telling actual victims of sexual assault that their cause doesn't matter.
Sure, the timing is suspect but maybe the women in question were prepared to forget it when it was just some college boy but felt that they couldn't remain silent when this man is being lined up for a seat on the highest court in the land.
None of us know the truth of these allegations yet but it would be some willful blindness to just call it politically motivated without first examining the accusations.

Trump's base were not prepared to change their opinion of him after the tape of him admitting to groping women became public so it is a small step from there for them to ignore the allegations in this case.
That's republican family values for you right there.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by DBTrek » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:46 am

As opposed to the values that allow sex offenders to label others sex offenders ... with nary a criminal conviction, police report, nor even a witness to a crime in sight.

Very compelling.
You certainly sound like you have the moral high ground.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:55 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:33 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:28 am
DBTrek wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:13 am
He’s not blind, but he is an accused sex offender - which according to his own standards makes him an actual sex offender.
/shrug
So now an anonymous accusation on a little forum is the same as testifying before a Senate committee?
Granted I should have said alleged sex offender, I'll admit my mistake but don't try to say my situation is the same.
If anyone wants to make a public accusation about me using their real name then go ahead, I will be glad to take you to court for slander and sue you for every penny you have.
Yep.

Baseless allegations == baseless allegation.
On what grounds are you stating that the allegations against him are baseless?
You are now pre-judging him as innocent because it suits your political position.
I have admitted I mis-spoke by not saying he is an alleged sex offender. Will you admit that the allegations may be true or false?
Do you want a situation where women are too frightened to make accusations for fear of being labelled as liars and whores if they dare speak out about being assaulted?
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:00 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:55 am
You are now pre-judging him as innocent because it suits your political position.

So what? The left has pre-judged him guilty because it suits their political position.

Where's the problem?

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:02 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:55 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:33 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:28 am


So now an anonymous accusation on a little forum is the same as testifying before a Senate committee?
Granted I should have said alleged sex offender, I'll admit my mistake but don't try to say my situation is the same.
If anyone wants to make a public accusation about me using their real name then go ahead, I will be glad to take you to court for slander and sue you for every penny you have.
Yep.

Baseless allegations == baseless allegation.
On what grounds are you stating that the allegations against him are baseless?
You are now pre-judging him as innocent because it suits your political position.
I have admitted I mis-spoke by not saying he is an alleged sex offender. Will you admit that the allegations may be true or false?
Do you want a situation where women are too frightened to make accusations for fear of being labelled as liars and whores if they dare speak out about being assaulted?

I am stating that the allegations are baseless based on the fact that they are backed up by zero substantive evidence, the alleged witnesses deny knowing anything about it or this alleged party, the accuser cannot remember any details, and her story contradicts itself. That could be a dictionary definition's example of baseless right there.

I am not judging him innocent. I am assuming he is innocent until somebody provides real evidence to the contrary. I have stated repeatedly that I would not be surprised if he did it.

Women already do not report actual sexual assaults. I just saw that for myself not one week ago with a neighbor. What I do not want to see is another God damned Salem Witch Trial where women can destroy any man's life with impunity based on a lie. That's even worse than rape. Had you considered that? Would you rather have your life destroyed, licked in prison with criminals, and spend the rest of your life as a registered rapist? Or would you rather just get raped one day and live your life without it being destroyed?
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