Worst Thing About Open Boarders Is Brain Drain From Shithole Countries

[Speaker to Animals]

You need money to homestead and most people don't have money nor land.

The land will get cheap. People can sell their shitty lots in the cities and buy a homestead with the revenue.

And the taxes?

And?

Do you not have to pay taxes in Pennsylvania?

[Penner]

The land will get cheap. People can sell their shitty lots in the cities and buy a homestead with the revenue.

And the taxes?

And?

Do you not have to pay taxes in Pennsylvania?

Yes, you have to pay taxes on your property in PA.

[jediuser598]

The brain drain of rural America is due to jobs not being in those parts of the country anymore not immigration. You can't support a family (or just pay rent by yourself) with a minimum wage job. People have to move out and the ones who stay are usually older folks who had a decent job for decades and/or are retired. Not to say that everyone who stays in their podunk town is going to have an IQ below 70 but honestly, if you can move out, then move out. Honestly, though this has been sort of true throughout history. If you are not going to find lots of work on your farm/local village and/or find a way to support a family, it's better to move out and settle in a bigger place with more opportunity.

Overall, immigration may be the only way these parts of rural America will survive at all in the future.

Hard to leave family behind, even harder to move if you have kids. Making babies in early twenties isn't uncommon. Trying to uproot people is exceptionally hard, even if it's demonstrably better somewhere else. I don't fault immigrants for economic immigration. I did it, except from one state to another. Lots of us did.

Yeah, that happens all the time. Literally, almost everyone that I know either left my local area at some point (but some did come back later) and/or they left for good. The honest answer is that there is literally no more opportunity in rural America. It is very hard but it becomes a matter of survival.

I'd guess the area I'm from had a tad bit more money around. There are some local factories that fuel the area, and it's along an interstate. Most of the people making 50k or above are either working for the government (cops, prison guards, jail guards) or they work at the factories.

There was a debate in Illinois about closing down one of the prisons because of budget shortfalls and all the talk was "Well, what about the jobs!"

Local college is holding on by their finger nails, it's all headed down hill though. Some of my family is insulated and some aren't but it's like, look, you're not going to get decent medical care, your kids aren't going to get decent educations, it's all going to shit. I'm just hoping I can get a life set up here so I can get them to move here, perhaps buy some land that they can stay on, a bit of a family plot of land. Move the whole clan. Illinois is shit.

[Penner]

Hard to leave family behind, even harder to move if you have kids. Making babies in early twenties isn't uncommon. Trying to uproot people is exceptionally hard, even if it's demonstrably better somewhere else. I don't fault immigrants for economic immigration. I did it, except from one state to another. Lots of us did.

Yeah, that happens all the time. Literally, almost everyone that I know either left my local area at some point (but some did come back later) and/or they left for good. The honest answer is that there is literally no more opportunity in rural America. It is very hard but it becomes a matter of survival.

I'd guess the area I'm from had a tad bit more money around. There are some local factories that fuel the area, and it's along an interstate. Most of the people making 50k or above are either working for the government (cops, prison guards, jail guards) or they work at the factories.

There was a debate in Illinois about closing down one of the prisons because of budget shortfalls and all the talk was "Well, what about the jobs!"

Local college is holding on by their finger nails, it's all headed down hill though. Some of my family is insulated and some aren't but it's like, look, you're not going to get decent medical care, your kids aren't going to get decent educations, it's all going to shit. I'm just hoping I can get a life set up here so I can get them to move here, perhaps buy some land that they can stay on, a bit of a family plot of land. Move the whole clan. Illinois is shit.

Good point to bring up medical care as well. My town is still has a major hospital (we were bought by Duke Health) but there are local hospitals literally hanging on. Education is another thing as well. The local schools in my area are tied to property taxes so if property drops, so does the school funding.

[Okeefenokee]

I'm not shit posting. If someone is smart and hard working, let's offer them citizenship.

So you think contributing to Central America's spiraling out of control by encouraging their best and brightest to migrate he is a net win for our society?

You already see the results of local brain drain in rural America.

The brain drain of rural America is due to jobs not being in those parts of the country anymore not immigration. You can't support a family (or just pay rent by yourself) with a minimum wage job. People have to move out and the ones who stay are usually older folks who had a decent job for decades and/or are retired. Not to say that everyone who stays in their podunk town is going to have an IQ below 70 but honestly, if you can move out, then move out. Honestly, though this has been sort of true throughout history. If you are not going to find lots of work on your farm/local village and/or find a way to support a family, it's better to move out and settle in a bigger place with more opportunity.

Overall, immigration may be the only way these parts of rural America will survive at all in the future.

Those queer studies majors making minimum wage pouring coffee don't live in the sticks, they live in your cities. We're doing pretty well out here taking in all of the manufacturing fleeing from your democrat plantations.

[C-Mag]

Okee, ........................... just stop, we're rural hillbillies, who spend all our time shootin guns, fixin our trucks and fucking our cousins.

We couldn't possibly win an intellectual debate with these dazzling urbanites. Hell, I've never seen a hillbilly win a debate on MHF.

[SuburbanFarmer]

She’s not wrong.

Rural populations are not exactly beacons of enlightenment and learning. You either have a business of your own, or you get the fuck out of there to work for one.

There’s a choice between modern standards of living, or rural location, and most people - especially with kids - will choose the former.

[C-Mag]

She’s not wrong.

Rural populations are not exactly beacons of enlightenment and learning. You either have a business of your own, or you get the fuck out of there to work for one.

There’s a choice between modern standards of living, or rural location, and most people - especially with kids - will choose the former.

Don't confuse education with intelligence.

We've turned our government over to Ivy League urbanites for the last century. They've destroyed our Constitutional Rights and concentrated the wealth to the coastal urban elites. They have mortgaged your future to the 0.1 %. They have us entrenched in wars all over the globe.

How is that a beacon of enlightenment ?

[SuburbanFarmer]

She’s not wrong.

Rural populations are not exactly beacons of enlightenment and learning. You either have a business of your own, or you get the fuck out of there to work for one.

There’s a choice between modern standards of living, or rural location, and most people - especially with kids - will choose the former.

Don't confuse education with intelligence.

We've turned our government over to Ivy League urbanites for the last century. They've destroyed our Constitutional Rights and concentrated the wealth to the coastal urban elites. They have mortgaged your future to the 0.1 %. They have us entrenched in wars all over the globe.

How is that a beacon of enlightenment ?

You’re not wrong either. The system sucks. But that doesn’t change the reality on the ground.

You need to make a living, and you’re not going to do that in a factory, or plowing a field.

If you have the means to start a business, you do so. But most do not. And most who do will be shut out by larger competitors.

Therefore, it’s Suburbia or survive on pride.

[C-Mag]

@ brogrump

What I hear you saying is the urbanites are really smart and the system is corrupt.

So the urbanites either intentionally set up this system to fuck you, or their really not that smart.