Social Justice Warriors Thread

[pineapplemike]

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-europ ... KKBN1ES173

yeah i'm not seeing a lot of evidence in that article that refugees will be returning home, in fact

The study said reuniting refugees with their families by allowing them to come to Germany too could help to reduce violence.

it says that they want more refugees to come

There won't be a lot of evidence for that until the war is over and people know it's safe to return.

well hey man it's all endless war as far as I can see, I was 12 years old when 9/11 happened and it's been all day double-u ay are since then

Most are just trying to survive in a foreign country until it is safe for them to go home.

after 24 hours of reflection, i rule this quoted comment to be

[Ph64]

well hey man it's all endless war as far as I can see, I was 12 years old when 9/11 happened and it's been all day double-u ay are since then

Ah, that explains the Venezuela thread. I was 12 when... Jimmy Carter was elected. I remember the moon landing on B&W TV. Watching/discussing the Nixon impeachment news at school. Iran/contra. The first gulf war. Watching the MIC war machine in action, whether overt or clandestine, is nothing new at my age. Neither is watching socialism fail.

I don't think I've ever seen the country as divided as it is today.

[Montegriffo]

yeah i'm not seeing a lot of evidence in that article that refugees will be returning home, in fact


it says that they want more refugees to come

There won't be a lot of evidence for that until the war is over and people know it's safe to return.

well hey man it's all endless war as far as I can see, I was 12 years old when 9/11 happened and it's been all day double-u ay are since then

Most are just trying to survive in a foreign country until it is safe for them to go home.

after 24 hours of reflection, i rule this quoted comment to be

Granted it's a bold claim and almost impossible to substantiate but I base it on the fact that refugees from Syria and other war torn nations are not the ones driving into crowds or shooting up Parisian concert halls. As for wanting to eventually return home I believe this to be likely because of human nature. The desire to live with our loved ones in familiar surroundings where we are not treated as outsiders and viewed with suspicion and hatred is a pretty universal feeling amongst human beings.
Only time will tell if I am right or not.
The illegal economic migrants committing the crimes are a different matter. Despite what some would believe I have never supported their right to stay in the UK and I would support them being sent home, if home can be established and it is safe to return them.

[Ph64]

The illegal economic migrants committing the crimes are a different matter. Despite what some would believe I have never supported their right to stay in the UK and I would support them being sent home, if home can be established and it is safe to return them.

Umm... If you can't establish where their "home" is, then obviously you can't really determine war refugee vs economic migrant can you? So why would you let them in at all in that case? I mean, if you don't know where they came from then chances are you also have no idea of their name, age, possible criminal background, or really much of anything, you're just trusting whatever bullshit they might tell you.

So you let them in anyways, and then you figure out later you don't really want them (commit crimes or whatever) and you can't send them away because you "can't establish" where they came from? Why TF did you take them in the first place then?

(I know the answer to that... It begins with "bleeding heart", betting you can finish it yourself)

[TheReal_ND]

[pineapplemike]

well hey man it's all endless war as far as I can see, I was 12 years old when 9/11 happened and it's been all day double-u ay are since then

Ah, that explains the Venezuela thread. I was 12 when... Jimmy Carter was elected. I remember the moon landing on B&W TV. Watching/discussing the Nixon impeachment news at school. Iran/contra. The first gulf war. Watching the MIC war machine in action, whether overt or clandestine, is nothing new at my age. Neither is watching socialism fail.

I don't think I've ever seen the country as divided as it is today.

eesh, you act like I'm a socialist. i'm 29, not 19

[BjornP]

A relatively few amount of Syrian refugees are returning home already:

https://www.google.dk/amp/s/www.csmonit ... torn-homes

[pineapplemike]

hey interesting, thanks for sharing. tens of thousands vs 5 million is a small number but i'm curious to see if it increases in the coming years. i wonder what syria will look like in the coming years and whether or not itll be safe to return

[BjornP]

hey interesting, thanks for sharing. tens of thousands vs 5 million is a small number but i'm curious to see if it increases in the coming years. i wonder what syria will look like in the coming years and whether or not itll be safe to return

I'd figure if Syrians are already willing to return to the giant, smoldering, broken rubbish dump that is Syria with a high risk of terrorism and fighting still on-going, the number of returnees will probably rise later. Even if Assad wanted to punish some of the refugees (alot of deserters, for example), he'll need to get an economy up and running again.

Could still take years before the last fighting ends, though. Idlib is the last stronghold of some AQ, Saudi and Turkish backed groups and they will lose soon, but Assad still needs to either negotiate or fight the Rojava Kurds if he wants to regain full control of the country. Hoping he opts for the former, but he seems to be in a strong enough position militarily now, that he might opt for the latter.

Meaning we could get a trickle-back of a million Syrian Arab refugees returning home... only to soon get a second refugee crisis on our hands from Kurdish refugees. And this time, I doubt Turkey will want to take the brunt of the refugees. They prolly feel they have enough Kurds as it is.

Interesting times.

[Montegriffo]

The illegal economic migrants committing the crimes are a different matter. Despite what some would believe I have never supported their right to stay in the UK and I would support them being sent home, if home can be established and it is safe to return them.

Umm... If you can't establish where their "home" is, then obviously you can't really determine war refugee vs economic migrant can you? So why would you let them in at all in that case? I mean, if you don't know where they came from then chances are you also have no idea of their name, age, possible criminal background, or really much of anything, you're just trusting whatever bullshit they might tell you.

So you let them in anyways, and then you figure out later you don't really want them (commit crimes or whatever) and you can't send them away because you "can't establish" where they came from? Why TF did you take them in the first place then?

(I know the answer to that... It begins with "bleeding heart", betting you can finish it yourself)

Just goes to show that the situation is a lot more complicated than "send them all home, they don't belong here".
As for bleeding heart, I prefer the term compassionate human being but I wouldn't expect a right-tard like yourself to understand.