DACA

[Penner]

@ Nuke, I have been hearing how people everywhere are starting to live in vans. It's like a new trend or something:

While vandwelling—living out of vans, cars, or motorhomes, as a lifestyle—was popularized by free-spirited hippies in the 60s, it's seeing a resurgence among millennials. Some, like Rachel Bujalski, who has wandered around California living out of her Corolla and runs a blog for young people unburdened by permanent housing, have even called it the "new American dream."

"I think that vandwelling is become popular now due to its practicality and its lure of adventure," said Zach Frost, a 27-year-old former vandweller. "Many people my age are drowning in student debt, unable to find a job, and don't necessarily want to live with their parents. Living in a van is exciting, allows for mobility, and doesn't cost terribly much." Plus, he said, "being able to live and work remotely anywhere on the globe is making vandwelling seem very attractive."

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/yvxj ... ican-dream

[TheReal_ND]

Yeah it's great. Go for it.

[Speaker to Animals]

Here's your research.

[Penner]

Yeah it's great. Go for it.

[Okeefenokee]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -not-800k/

Oh, so for reasons, we should think of less than 700,000 as 4,000,000. I would love to look that research up and see how they arrived at that number, but your favorite blog didn't link that information.

They did have a long quote from the Migration Policy Institute about unaccompanied minors, which are different than minors brought in by their parents, but that is the sort of detail ignoring, subject changing, panic mongering without sources we have come to know and love from the big B.

The "reasons" were explained in the article. It's called chained immigration and apparently once you let one of them in, there are all sorts of programs for them to help their family get here too. It's a racket!

My wife's mother migrated to New York legally, then spent the next few decades wiping old ladies' behinds while she sponsored her seven children to become citizens one at a time.

So yes, chain immigration happens, and it doesn't take thirty years to gain citizenship, or it would have taken her 210 years to get it done.

Two birds with one stone on that one.

[Speaker to Animals]

I don't oppose immigrants fast tracking their own children to come here (presuming the children can work and support themselves). Nor would that really apply to "dreamers" who presumably download babies on American soil who get automatic citizenship.

The idea is offensive to me that these DACA folks can immediately start a process to bring in any other family members. What your MIL did shouldn't really apply here. They presumably don't leave the states, and they meet somebody here to marry, and they have their children here. So how in the fuck do these people get to help anybody else get here?

Fast tracking should apply only to spouses and children.

[Okeefenokee]

Oh, so for reasons, we should think of less than 700,000 as 4,000,000. I would love to look that research up and see how they arrived at that number, but your favorite blog didn't link that information.

They did have a long quote from the Migration Policy Institute about unaccompanied minors, which are different than minors brought in by their parents, but that is the sort of detail ignoring, subject changing, panic mongering without sources we have come to know and love from the big B.

The "reasons" were explained in the article. It's called chained immigration and apparently once you let one of them in, there are all sorts of programs for them to help their family get here too. It's a racket!

The 'reasons' are asserted without evidence in the blog post.

Either way, if I were a savvy deal maker, I might use DACA (which has an ethical corner stone) to negotiate away some of those programs, should they actually exist, and actually do what the blog post claims.

Maybe focusing on that instead of an expensive, pointless border totem would be a better use of the art of deal making I have heard so much about.

The sponsorship program that lets legal immigrants sponsor their family members while they are gaining their own citizenship requires the sponsor to be financially stable, maintain a decent amount of cash in an account as a sort of deposit during the process, remain employed on the books during the process, and not receive any gibs.

It's the last thing I would be worried about. Amnesty and citizenship for illegals is the actual problem, not the legal system through which tax paying citizens who aren't on welfare work to bring their families to join them.

[TheReal_ND]

You say that while California is blue.

This is a legitimate existential crises for white Americans. I know it's not the most popular subject on this forum but it is one dear to my heart. I do not believe this ridiculous dog and pony show can go on while white Americans (republican voters,) are quite literally genocicided by the UN's own language.

You won't have a America to make Great again when we are a minority voting block. You will literally be Brazil times a thousand, turbo charged by.... the things you already know about

[Speaker to Animals]

Another thing that makes no sense at all: most of the people who want these open borders also want a real national health care system of some kind. But we can't really do that unless we secure our borders and start removing illegal immigrants.

The more rational things I see people on the Left fighting for are totally undermined by their opposition to nationalism. If you want a solvent national health care system, then you best better get immigration under control and stop the mass migrations (illegal or legal). Really, none of the sweeping national programs the Left wants work outside of the paradigm of the nation state.

[DBTrek]

Student tries to get undocumented girl deported, he gets expelled instead

http://thegrio.com/2017/09/17/student-t ... d-instead/

Dude learns how to get deported from college.